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Hello Jerry, sorry for the delay..you know I am online when americans are supposed to sleep :-)
... mmm the sound of a '60s 4005.... compared to a 4001 or a 4003...well I've read in the chat pages that there are so many little differences between 4001/3/v63/c64 etc etc... of course the type of strings you use it's important....and modern bass amp speakers are so different and so far from the "typical" old fashioned sound 4005s were made to produce... I play them through a 60s Vox Super Foundation bass or a new small Vox amps..the natural tone, keeping the amps eq in the flat position is "full, soft and deep" just like in the 60s records... so far from the modern speakers full of middle tones. I hate to play in studio when I must use new Trace Elliott o Peaveys or whatever they have wasting 10minutes before I find a sound that is 70% similar to the sound I can have using my amps just plugging the jack in withouth touching any tone control
Anyway...I use round wound strings on all my basses.... just because I don't feel comfortable playing tape or flat wound ones.... even my '64 hofner violin bass has round wound strings..rotosound. with flat ones fingers don't slide if you know what I mean.
1) I purchased my 4001V63 as brand new in 1997 and she (funny for me that in english a bass guitar is a lady) has standard scale 45/105 factory RIC strings and I had to wait 4 months till they arrived to Rome from the USA. Anyway original strings sound well considering the typical "dead points" all rick basses have around the 7th fret of the D string...my old 4001, 4001V63 and even the 4005 all of them have this little trouble...
2) the 4005 MG, purchased in L.A. in 1992, has VERY thin neck. Since I got it I have used round wound strings (old ones were RW as well).. scale 40/100, SIT and recently COCCO strings...both of them play really well....I did not want to use original RIC scale on it just because I don't want to change the set up of the truss rod
3) Differences between 4001V63 and 4005? the 4005 does not have a horseshoe pick up in the treble position... the toaster is located too close to the bridge if you want to use it "alone" ...and its volume is lower than the other one..But if mixed with the bass pickup it gives a "presence" that maybe a 4001 does not have..more "open"... the general sustain of the 4005 is amazing for a hollow body instrument.. but hey! we're talking about Rickenbacker!!!
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All this 4005 talk got me yearning. I'll tell you what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna run a '4005 Wanted' ad in every major local newspaper and see what happens - that's a promise and a threat.Image Seriously, I could get lucky.
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You could....You never know what you might come back with.
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Post by shamustwin »

Hey, first Chris had a "jones", then a 4005. Worked for him...
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I'd immediately go for a 4005V65 reissue if RIC finally made it!!!!
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Well, so would I, however a real one from the 60s is much more desirable AFAIC.
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you are right..but it's so hard to find one... expecially here in europe....and expensive as well
we should ask RIC to make a vintage reissue!
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If Rick did make a 4005-v65 re-issue, I'd be on that like a rodent vertically traversing an aqueduct !!!
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wondering if customers have ever seriously asked RIC to think about a reissue...
how many 4005 did they make...3-400? not so many to satisfy us :-)
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That thread has been brought up before when JH was posting here, he said (I'm paraphrasing from memory...) that it would be pricy to do either a 4005 or 4001v68 reissue, and it would be a LONG time before it would even be considered. They have a lot of work ahead of them as it is.
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maybe one day....
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A 4001-v68, Fireglo, Chequered binding, Horseshoe, full width MOP inlays, and ROS outputs !!!

I'd get out a second mortgage, or sell body parts !!!
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most 1968 4001 basses came mono ...
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True, but ROS was an available option, made standard about 1970.

Oh, and modern style truss rods thank you !!!
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Post by wints »

I,d bet that all 68 4001 basses were originally mono. I don,t recall seeing any 60,s bass with the stereo outputs...anyone?
The 4005,s are about, at least here in the States. You tend to see more for sale than the 60,s 4001 models.
In Europe, Simon Mole has bought nearly all of them I think! Go to Bjorn,s site and check them out...
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