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Rick necks: Old vs New

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Has Rickenbacker changed the necks on their guitars?

I have owned an 87 325v63 which had a great neck feel to it.
89 370/12rm great neck
90 330/12 great neck

01 370/12 not a great feel
08 620 not great
11 360/12 not great

It is difficult to explain, and I am sure that it is subjective. The guitars with the great necks felt slimmer to me and the "not great" ones feel thicker and more clunky. Were the necks changed deliberately or am I just experiencing differences in hand made guitars? If it was a deliberate change can someone tell me what year it happened? I would prefer to buy the good ones (to my hands). If I am in a shop, I can tell. But sometimes I buy off ebay and it is hard to feel a neck over the internet. :lol: :?
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Welcome, Thomas! :D

Neck size is one of those things that are a personal preference kind of thing, some folks like them thin, some fat.

As to your initial question, Rickenbacker neck dimensions have varied a bit throughout the years, possibly due to changing desires of the population, at large.
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I don't know. That's hard to say. I will say that from what I remember of my first 360 (a 1994, that I brought brand new in early 1995), it had a relatively slim neck, compared to my 2nd and 3rd 360s. Of the three, 360s I've had, my present one (which is a 2006) has the chunkiest neck - even moreso than the 2009 360 (my 2nd one), that I had to sell last year. I actually prefer the chunky neck of my present 2006 360, out of the three that I've had, but that might be due to my playing style (classically based, with the thumb behind the neck, and not sticking up, or hanging over the neck, like many players play), which seems to work better with chunky necks. IMO, the neck profiles of Rics, seem to vary from year to year.
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IMO, the neck profiles of Rics, seem to vary from year to year.
Well that isn't good for me I suppose. I was hoping that it would be related to year model. I can see how the chunky necks could be appealing for some people. I just prefer the thinner ones, because they were what I was used to when I first started playing. That 330/12 I bought in 1990 was my main axe throughout the 90's. I sold it because I wanted a more McGuinn style guitar. I got the 2001 370/12 which I played for a while. But the neck wasn't to my liking. I got the 370/12RM about a year later and it had a great neck on it.
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tcsmit29 wrote:
IMO, the neck profiles of Rics, seem to vary from year to year.
Well that isn't good for me I suppose.
There is a lot of information on the RRF that will provide useful as the relationship of neck size to years of production. One of them is a chart that shows just such information, on neck girth, that relates directly to specific instruments models and what year they were made. 8)
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Yep, they got fatter in the 90's (to boil it down very succinctly). It's one reason there is such a demand for vintage Ricks, and other brands for that matter, by players.
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jdogric12 wrote:Yep, they got fatter in the 90's (to boil it down very succinctly). It's one reason there is such a demand for vintage Ricks, and other brands for that matter, by players.

Well, the funny part is that Rickenbacker neck profiles changed constantly from 1961-1972 (only going by years that I own...), and with no rhyme, reason or pattern. The '61 365 neck I have is med-chunky, but not as big as a '64 RM1998, and the '69 381 I have has a tiny little neck, even smaller than the slim '72 331 neck.

Really, that's half the fun of old guitars, just feeling out the differences between them. Each one is handmade and different.

I wasn't a fan of the '07 330 neck I once owned. It was pretty too chunky, but I think the current profile (as carved by the CNC) is a decent, medium shape for both 6 and 12-string instruments.

Thing is, you can never please everyone all the time. Different players have different needs/tastes. At least in the Rickenbacker world, smaller necks aren't a bad thing to many people. In the Gibson world, they can devalue a guitar over 70% from the previous year with a larger neck.

In fact, think of all the people on the Les Paul forums that talk about '59 Les Paul profile necks being the best etc (while having never touched a '59 Les Paul). Gibson responded by making the necks larger and larger until they were quite literally baseball bats.....and not vintage profile.

The point is that, there really is no "standard" neck size, especially when you are reissuing guitars based on handmade instruments years ago. Best they can do is get a baseline profile etc.
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Only Rick I've ever owned is my 2009 360. I've only played a handful besides my own (including a '65). So take this for what it's worth, but ....

I love the neck profile on mine - I was surprised to feel how beefy it was compared to my expectations. Not too thick like the old no-trussrod Gibby acoustics, and not too thin ala shredder.
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collin wrote:Well, the funny part is that Rickenbacker neck profiles changed constantly from 1961-1972 (only going by years that I own...), and with no rhyme, reason or pattern. The '61 365 neck I have is med-chunky, but not as big as a '64 RM1998,
Good to know! I was unaware of that kind of variation in the 60's.
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jdogric12 wrote:
collin wrote:Well, the funny part is that Rickenbacker neck profiles changed constantly from 1961-1972 (only going by years that I own...), and with no rhyme, reason or pattern. The '61 365 neck I have is med-chunky, but not as big as a '64 RM1998,
Good to know! I was unaware of that kind of variation in the 60's.
Big time. Even more than the last 20 years, IMO.

This is due to them being handmade, though from what I've seen/played/heard about, most guitars from a batch of a single model had similar neck profiles. I.e. most original 381 models had very slim/small necks and most 331 models had slim/wide necks etc.
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Yeah it definitely is a personal preference thing. I like the thinner necks because that is what I am most comfortable with. I want to buy a 325c64 someday. But now I am scared that it will have a chunky neck and I won't like it. This is a valid concern for an instrument that is that expensive. I had a 325v63 as stated in the op. I had to sell it when I got into a bind. Now I wish I still had it. Does anyone have opinions on newer 325c64 neck girth versus the 325v63? The likelihood of me finding one of these in a store is rare to none. So test driving before purchase is probably out of the question. I could possibly pick up a 325v63 on the second hand market. At least I would get the neck I like.
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