New 4003 - Cracked Lacquer On The Neck - Avoid?
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New 4003 - Cracked Lacquer On The Neck - Avoid?
I've got the chance of a new 4003 at a great price.
Only problem is the lacquer on the rear of the neck. It has a number of cracks, starting around the nut, all over the first fret area. It's a bit like a spiders web, which then develops into about 3 longer ones, I guess about halfway around the neck.
I've been told a luthier has checked it, and it is just the lacquer.
What the take on this? Worth a go, or avoid? It's a good price, from a reputable retailer.
Will try to post a photo later.
Only problem is the lacquer on the rear of the neck. It has a number of cracks, starting around the nut, all over the first fret area. It's a bit like a spiders web, which then develops into about 3 longer ones, I guess about halfway around the neck.
I've been told a luthier has checked it, and it is just the lacquer.
What the take on this? Worth a go, or avoid? It's a good price, from a reputable retailer.
Will try to post a photo later.
1974 (February) 4001 JG
Re: New 4003 - Cracked Lacquer On The Neck - Avoid?
Define "good price."
It's likeliest just the lacquer, commonly caused by an instrument being shipped at a cold temperature (typical), and then someone quickly removes it from the box and case indoors. The rapid temperature change cracks it like glass. That's why they always leave the box indoors for 24 hours before opening it, or something like that.
Unless it's a HUGE discount, I'd pass. A dealer should know better.
It's likeliest just the lacquer, commonly caused by an instrument being shipped at a cold temperature (typical), and then someone quickly removes it from the box and case indoors. The rapid temperature change cracks it like glass. That's why they always leave the box indoors for 24 hours before opening it, or something like that.
Unless it's a HUGE discount, I'd pass. A dealer should know better.
Re: New 4003 - Cracked Lacquer On The Neck - Avoid?
Discount is about £400 ($640).
Here is a picture of the cracking...although as far as I'm aware, you can't feel it when playing.
Here is a picture of the cracking...although as far as I'm aware, you can't feel it when playing.
1974 (February) 4001 JG
Re: New 4003 - Cracked Lacquer On The Neck - Avoid?
I have a 2006 62 RI Jazz Bass that has the exact same thing. Looks like someone along the way did not heed the manufacturers suggestions regarding cold weather (and plain old common sense) and opened up the case in a warm room right after the instrument had been exposed to very cold temps in shipping. On my bass the spider lacquer cracks have had absolutely no ill effects on the bass and I got the bass for less than half of what it should have sold for because someone did not want to deal with trying to resell it and having to explain the cracks were harmless
Re: New 4003 - Cracked Lacquer On The Neck - Avoid?
Looks to me like it was dropped on the nut, which was cracked and replaced. Just a guess but it sure looks like that.spongebob wrote:Discount is about £400 ($640).
Here is a picture of the cracking...although as far as I'm aware, you can't feel it when playing.
Re: New 4003 - Cracked Lacquer On The Neck - Avoid?
+1johnallg wrote:Looks to me like it was dropped on the nut, which was cracked and replaced. Just a guess but it sure looks like that.
That's from stress not from weather checking IMO.
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Re: New 4003 - Cracked Lacquer On The Neck - Avoid?
I'll bet almost anything there's a ding somewhere on the head.
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ricnbacker
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Re: New 4003 - Cracked Lacquer On The Neck - Avoid?
$640 bucks?
Is it new or used?
it it plays well and it doesnt seem to have any problems and you can live with that mark....why not
you are going to play it right? if so, then you will most likely put some small scratch marks here and there anyway.
Is it new or used?
it it plays well and it doesnt seem to have any problems and you can live with that mark....why not
you are going to play it right? if so, then you will most likely put some small scratch marks here and there anyway.
Re: New 4003 - Cracked Lacquer On The Neck - Avoid?
Yeah thats been dropped id leave it that would get on my nerves anyway lets say you sold it, your not going to shift that anytime soon.£400 off of £1699 im presuming £1300 for a new bass with a cracked neck? Nah id avoid it Iain.
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Colonel Sanders
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Re: New 4003 - Cracked Lacquer On The Neck - Avoid?
I'd say ''pass''. Those cracks, even if benign, are sticking out like dogs balls.
1973 4001 Jetglo
2017 4003S Jetglo
2023 4003 Mapleglo
2022 4005XC Jetglo
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2021 Epiphone Thunderbird
2017 4003S Jetglo
2023 4003 Mapleglo
2022 4005XC Jetglo
1979 MusicMan Stingray
2021 Epiphone Thunderbird
Re: New 4003 - Cracked Lacquer On The Neck - Avoid?
Wow, the language has suddenly deteriorated here! That should be "dog's balls".Colonel Sanders wrote:I'd say ''pass''. Those cracks, even if benign, are sticking out like dogs balls.
Re: New 4003 - Cracked Lacquer On The Neck - Avoid?
johnhall wrote:Wow, the language has suddenly deteriorated here! That should be "dog's balls".Colonel Sanders wrote:I'd say ''pass''. Those cracks, even if benign, are sticking out like dogs balls.
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+1!johnallg wrote:johnhall wrote:Wow, the language has suddenly deteriorated here! That should be "dog's balls".Colonel Sanders wrote:I'd say ''pass''. Those cracks, even if benign, are sticking out like dogs balls.
I have NO idea what to do with those skinny stringed things... I'm just a bass player...
Re: New 4003 - Cracked Lacquer On The Neck - Avoid?
Speaking of dog ball's, my friend had a Schnauzer that was born with only ONE testicle.
I used to refer to it as "the one nut, mutt". For some reason, he didn't see the humor in that.
I'm sorry, back to the topic at hand.
I used to refer to it as "the one nut, mutt". For some reason, he didn't see the humor in that.
I'm sorry, back to the topic at hand.
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Colonel Sanders
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Re: New 4003 - Cracked Lacquer On The Neck - Avoid?
Oooops! Apologies for the spelling error!johnhall wrote:Wow, the language has suddenly deteriorated here! That should be "dog's balls".Colonel Sanders wrote:I'd say ''pass''. Those cracks, even if benign, are sticking out like dogs balls.
The following french version is grammatically correct!
Je laisserais l’occasion à quelqu’un d’autre. Ces fissures, même bénignes, sont aussi apparentes que les couilles d’un chien.
1973 4001 Jetglo
2017 4003S Jetglo
2023 4003 Mapleglo
2022 4005XC Jetglo
1979 MusicMan Stingray
2021 Epiphone Thunderbird
2017 4003S Jetglo
2023 4003 Mapleglo
2022 4005XC Jetglo
1979 MusicMan Stingray
2021 Epiphone Thunderbird
