Serial number detective work!!!!!
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- vulcan_creedler
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Serial number detective work!!!!!
Well - just bought a 1998 4003 body from Gibsondependable on Ebay. Unfortunately, the jack plate was sold elsewhere, and the vendor didn't keep a record of the number.
Hi mentioned it was S1 xxxx in the listing. (and re-stated it after asking again). He had the same information, looking at his completed items (alas - the plate was sold before I bought the body)
There is a label inside the cavity: 25105 4003 MG 40002 (and a hand written date: 6-04-98 (4th June presumably, as opposed to the UK reading of 6th April!)
25105 also appears in pencil in the neck pickup routing, under the lacquer.
Putting in 9825105 into the serial number decoder seems to work, coming back with 25th week of 1998
Am I right in assuming that "25" the first 2 numbers from 25105 also refers to the week number, and that "105" implies instrument number 105 released that week?
So - jumping the gun a bit, I tried "S1 7105",(adding an extra "7" to make it 4 digits after the S1 and it also came back with June 1998. It seems that all other June 98 4003 basses on the register are S17xxx.
Maybe I'll email Ric to get them to clarify!
Incidentally - Rossetti in the UK supplied me with a replacement plate, stamped xxx 2002, so having found the right serial number, I'll either get it engraved between the two jack holes, or on the back of the plate. Unless of course I can figure a way of getting the "xxx 2002" filled in, and then re-stamped!
Hi mentioned it was S1 xxxx in the listing. (and re-stated it after asking again). He had the same information, looking at his completed items (alas - the plate was sold before I bought the body)
There is a label inside the cavity: 25105 4003 MG 40002 (and a hand written date: 6-04-98 (4th June presumably, as opposed to the UK reading of 6th April!)
25105 also appears in pencil in the neck pickup routing, under the lacquer.
Putting in 9825105 into the serial number decoder seems to work, coming back with 25th week of 1998
Am I right in assuming that "25" the first 2 numbers from 25105 also refers to the week number, and that "105" implies instrument number 105 released that week?
So - jumping the gun a bit, I tried "S1 7105",(adding an extra "7" to make it 4 digits after the S1 and it also came back with June 1998. It seems that all other June 98 4003 basses on the register are S17xxx.
Maybe I'll email Ric to get them to clarify!
Incidentally - Rossetti in the UK supplied me with a replacement plate, stamped xxx 2002, so having found the right serial number, I'll either get it engraved between the two jack holes, or on the back of the plate. Unless of course I can figure a way of getting the "xxx 2002" filled in, and then re-stamped!
"Infamy, Infamy, They've all got it in for me" - Kenneth Williams
1988 JG 4003
1988 JG 4003
Re: Serial number detective work!!!!!
All very interesting. The RIC numbering system switched from [alpha]1 to 98 prefix during 1998 and continued on with last 2 digits of year = 2-digit prefix for serial nos. thereafter. "25" is the week in your example.vulcan_creedler wrote: Am I right in assuming that "25" the first 2 numbers from 25105 also refers to the week number, and that "105" implies instrument number 105 released that week?
As I understand it, the "105" in your example is a production number randomly assigned; the instruments made in any given week do not have sequential production numbers.
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Watch those teeth, Marlin. I'm not sure we've properly sedated the beast . . .
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I was straining to be funny.
I may have crossed the line.
I should probably delete.
I may have crossed the line.
I should probably delete.
Watch those teeth, Marlin. I'm not sure we've properly sedated the beast . . .
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I do that all the time, so far I have a pretty dismal record, so you good!rickyfricky wrote:I was straining to be funny.
I may have crossed the line.
I should probably delete.
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jps wrote:so you good!
Jeff's got soul!
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jdogric12 wrote:jps wrote:so you good!
Jeff's got soul!
Thanks guys!!
I have rinsed out my mouth, and promise to exude positivity for the rest of the day . . .
Watch those teeth, Marlin. I'm not sure we've properly sedated the beast . . .
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Gentlemen, gentlemen!!!!!
Now -aside of bickering, and mouth rinsing, do you have any information to help me on my bass serial number!!!!!!!!!!!??????????
Guy VC
BTW - Gibsondependable gave me excellent international service!
Now -aside of bickering, and mouth rinsing, do you have any information to help me on my bass serial number!!!!!!!!!!!??????????
Guy VC
BTW - Gibsondependable gave me excellent international service!
"Infamy, Infamy, They've all got it in for me" - Kenneth Williams
1988 JG 4003
1988 JG 4003
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Sorry Guy.
You're theories and summations sound spot on to me.
You may want to call RIC customer service and run it by them. I have found them to be very approachable and helpful.
All the Best.
You're theories and summations sound spot on to me.
You may want to call RIC customer service and run it by them. I have found them to be very approachable and helpful.
All the Best.
Watch those teeth, Marlin. I'm not sure we've properly sedated the beast . . .
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No need to be sorry! 'twas a humorous rant, veritably!!!!
"Infamy, Infamy, They've all got it in for me" - Kenneth Williams
1988 JG 4003
1988 JG 4003
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And we missed it; all deleted or edited. 
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johnallg wrote:And we missed it; all deleted or edited.
Phew!!!!
Anyhow - joking aside - I found the REAL serial number! All along the bass was on the resource page. I simply looked at all the pictures of the June 1998 Mapleglo basses, and voila!!! Actually - it was the very first bass I looked at! I'll have to get it re-registered, in my name, and put up a new set of pictures: (horrible pickguard and SD pickup on the old pictures!)
http://www.rickresource.com/register/vi ... lebrity%3D
Right - all I need to do now is somehow recreate the right plate!
"Infamy, Infamy, They've all got it in for me" - Kenneth Williams
1988 JG 4003
1988 JG 4003
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Guy:
Very good detective work!
So the bass is the register three times then.
When it originally sold last year out of Venice California with the replaced odd looking pick guard
http://www.rickresource.com/register/vi ... lebrity%3D
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1998-RICKENBACK ... 7675.l2557
When it sold again a few weeks ago (somewhere in the US) and the NJ Butcher bought it.
http://www.rickresource.com/register/vi ... Findex.php
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1998-Mapleglo-R ... 7675.l2557
And then when the Butcher sold it to you.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-19 ... 7675.l2557
Your not sure of the SN entry is there now as well...
http://www.rickresource.com/register/vi ... 6order%3D7
It is obviously the same bass by the distinctive wood knot on the back of the body...
Myself I would start advertising to see if the person who bought the jackplate might sell it to you
Very good detective work!
So the bass is the register three times then.
When it originally sold last year out of Venice California with the replaced odd looking pick guard
http://www.rickresource.com/register/vi ... lebrity%3D
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1998-RICKENBACK ... 7675.l2557
When it sold again a few weeks ago (somewhere in the US) and the NJ Butcher bought it.
http://www.rickresource.com/register/vi ... Findex.php
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1998-Mapleglo-R ... 7675.l2557
And then when the Butcher sold it to you.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-19 ... 7675.l2557
Your not sure of the SN entry is there now as well...
http://www.rickresource.com/register/vi ... 6order%3D7
It is obviously the same bass by the distinctive wood knot on the back of the body...
Myself I would start advertising to see if the person who bought the jackplate might sell it to you
Brian Morton
A Rickenbacker Fan
in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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67 FG 625
74 JG 4000
76 JG 430
77 JG 620
77 JG 320
79 MG 450
79 JG 4001
80 FG 620/12
81 BG 480
91 JG 610
02 BG 620
78 TR7
83 TR25
A Rickenbacker Fan
in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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67 FG 625
74 JG 4000
76 JG 430
77 JG 620
77 JG 320
79 MG 450
79 JG 4001
80 FG 620/12
81 BG 480
91 JG 610
02 BG 620
78 TR7
83 TR25
