Make someone's Christmas!!

beatlefan · Post by **beatlefan** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 10:30 am

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41439&item=3767791504&rd=1

If this is legit....

doctorwho · Post by **doctorwho** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 1:35 pm

Chris, I think that you just made someone's Christmas, by posting that!

beatlefan · Post by **beatlefan** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:22 pm

No problem!! That's one of the reasons I'm here....

atomic_punk · Post by **atomic_punk** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 5:34 pm

And its gone for the BIN of under $1K. Someone got a good one here...

jamesvwaal · Post by **jamesvwaal** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 9:12 pm

Is it just me or does eBay really not look like such a good deal after all.

I have done some bidding lately and I find that people are paying about the same price for used items as for new; in fact, I watched people bid some telecaster parts up to $36, and the same parts can be purchased brand new for $26 from an online supplier. I saw used Boss electronic stuff (drum machines, digital recorders) go for the online new price or even MORE than the new price. Or the above guitar; I know of an online dealer who will sell a new 360 for $999, so $979 for a used Fireglo 360 (stock color) does not seem that good of a deal to me. I know that there is a waiting list for Rics, but you can find Fireglo 360's online pretty easily.

Are people not just researching prices before they bid? Or am I missing something?

doctorwho · Post by **doctorwho** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 1:17 am

James, I agree with your comments about un-informed buyers paying more on eBay than from a dealer for some items (I see it a lot with computer equipment), but that guitar was a 1966 365 "... in mint condition... ".

I think $979 is a heck of a deal for one that old, and no dealer's price would come close to that, e.g. (all from GuitarBase):

1966 Rickenbacker 360, FireGlo, VG, $2,499.00

1967 Rickenbacker 365, Mapleglo, Ex+, OHSC, $3,500.00

1967 Rickenbacker 365, Fireglo, Ex, OHSC, $3,495.00

1967 Rickenbacker 365, JetGlo, EX, HSC, $2,599.00

1967 RICKENBACKER 365, $2,000.00

1967 Rickenbacker 360, Jetglo, Ex, OHSC, $3,100.00

among others.

Q.E.D.?

jcreasy · Post by **jcreasy** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 2:48 am

Yeah, that BIN made me sick to my stomach with envy.

I bought a '68 (I think), 360 6/16 convertible one time from a guy at a music store who had it in to repair the broken "R" tailpiece. Paid $400.00 for it. I took the thing apart to give it a good polishing up and cleaning... and sort of lost interest. I sold it about 3 or 4 years ago on eBay (still in pieces) for around 2k.

jamesvwaal · Post by **jamesvwaal** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 7:16 am

Wow. Those are some high prices compared to what was paid on the 365. On used items, it is hard to know what price constitutes a good deal unless you can get a handle on how much IS being paid. Even if dealers list guitar prices in the 2k and 3k range, those are not necessarily the prices being paid, if there is haggling to be done.

My disgust with eBay is that people are clearly paying much more than what the same items (usually electronics) can be purchased for brand new. There is usually no reason to pay more for a used potentiometer than a new one unless that pot is inside of a vintage amp.

jamesvwaal · Post by **jamesvwaal** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 7:21 am

What is a 360 6/16 convertible? I have never seen those numbers before.

A friend of mine has used eBay for years to sell off items for high prices, which he had found in junk yards and bought for low prices. For example, he found a radio console at a station going out of business and bought it for $10. He pulled several tube amps out of the console (maybe 20) and sold each for $40-50 on eBay. So, yeah, I know that a lot of people don't have any idea about the value of certain items.

tony_carey · Post by **tony_carey** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 8:06 am

James, if you go to http://www.rickbeat.com/ & look under 'MODELS' for 456/12. This is a 450, but they did it on differant models as well. I think Jim meant 6/12 convertible.

doctorwho · Post by **doctorwho** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 8:15 am

James, I think Jim meant "366/12", which is a 360/12 with the James Gross 6/12 converter comb. Here's a link to a picture of one at the rickbeat.com site:

http://www.rickbeat.com/modelslibrary/36612/36612.htm

I've thought about that yard-sale-to-eBay thing, but don't have the time. I figure there are a number of old Grundig hi-fis still out there with good Telefunkens and/or Mullards that would sell for $40 or more a tube ...

tony_carey · Post by **tony_carey** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 9:11 am

Well done Gary. I obviously didn't look hard enough!

jcreasy · Post by **jcreasy** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 9:45 am

That is the one I meant... Sorry.

JKC

bluespckr · Post by **bluespckr** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 2:12 am

You're right about uninformed (or maybe sellers trying to "take" the uninformed. This past week, I saw two used (but certainly not vintage) 360/6's fpr sale. both had a starting bid notice of $1,000 and a "buy it now" price of $1,500. I couldn't resist, and emailed the fools asking them if they were aware they could buy the same model NEW from the usual on-line music sources for just under $1,100. Never heard from the second seller, but the first one wrote back and said he didn't. The first one never sold, so he has since put it back up for auction. Ready for this? Starting bid requested is now $900 with a $1,400 "buy it now" price. Ay, chihuahua!!!

But the winner on that '60s model, made the buy of the century.