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Hello - Here are the details of this documentation for those who may be interested.

Brief back-story: I purchased this 1964 RM 1999 back in 2006. When I received it, it had been refin'd, clearly. (Rather: Orangely) and didn't have any of it's original hardware except for the tuners.

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Over the course of a couple of years, I was able to track down all the period correct hardware right down to the hand-carved bakelite nut.

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One of the first functional issues addressed was the tilted-fwd headstock. The strings often popped out of the nut, and the nameplate would no longer sit flush on the surface. Chip Little at Winfield Vintage corrected the angle nicely.

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However, that's about the only part of the job that he did correctly. I was VERY unhappy with most all the other work he did. I know it's not considered good form to publicly criticize someone's work, but F it - I would have appreciated the heads-up on Chip's level of workmanship before sending him my rare bass. But looking at the greater good, I figure with this lip service that the bass I save just might be your own. For the sake of keeping this thread positive and on point, I've posted the details of The Chip Little Experience HERE.

The first order of business upon getting the bass back - getting rid of the Pumpkin-Glo:

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Although unique, I really wasn't digging it, and will eventually return the bass to it's original Fireglo glory.


Next, addressing some of the more serious issues. The pickup cavities had excess routing which weakened the neck piece and resulted in the neck pitching forward at the body intersection under standard tuning string tension and caused separation between both body wings and the neck from the heel inward about 3 inches.

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I've removed the original neck wood down all the way to the bottom of the horseshoe pickup cavity, and have prepped it for a new replacement block. The top body wing is pretty heavily damaged by excess screw holes and sanding down of the back end above the tailpiece which has compromised it's original size and shape, so it will be replaced by a new piece that also has a bird's eye grain which will better match the bottom wing. Once reassembled, the pickup and tailpiece cavities will be rerouted.

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And that's where we're at!
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Well, that's certainly some major surgery you're gettin' yourself into. It'll be fun to watch the progress!
8) 8) 8)
I have NO idea what to do with those skinny stringed things... I'm just a bass player...
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cjj wrote:Well, that's certainly some major surgery you're gettin' yourself into. It'll be fun to watch the progress!
8) 8) 8)
Read the thread he linked to... :roll:
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Yeah, I did.
I have NO idea what to do with those skinny stringed things... I'm just a bass player...
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Good Luck Mark! This is going to be very interesting to watch. So sorry you went through the other BS.
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Good luck, Mark. I can't imagine how painful this experience is.
I certainly count my blessing on how well Larry Davis did on my RM.
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Good luck Mark. I look forward to seeing all that pain turned into joy 8)
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Not the path you wanted, but you get an A+ for sticking it out. Many would have cursed a bunch and hung it on the wall for looks.
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Woops! Scene missing:

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I meant to include that chapter earlier.

Thanks for the well-wishes, guys! It's actually not a painful experience as some suspect. I find myself getting pumped with every step I take getting closer to finishing it up. At this point, all the deconstruction is over - leaving: reassembly! The funnish part! I'm just glad that I'm past the whole neck prep work. I sawed the blocks off easily enough, but getting that surface routed smooth was a nerve-racker. Doing smallish work like that with an 8.5 amp router is like working on someone's molars with a jet engine powered dental drill. (Work I've also done in my underground dentist profession.) Some might have gotten good results by planing the surface, but I don't trust a planer due to the element of human error possibly resulting in twists or uneven surfaces. Or even catching an edge and snapping the whole piece off.

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cjj wrote:Yeah, I did.
I did as well. It is certainly wrenching to here that one's experience can be so bad.
Be it known that even some of the repair "gurus" are not above a poor job either :roll:
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Whoa Mark, mad props to you for taking the leap and pulling apart this, very worthy of restoration, bass! I'd be be shakin in my boots undertaking such a huge and important task!!

I do love to watch restoration projects, whether it be vintage car, house, or RM 1999's!! :D Now where the heck did I put my popcorn??

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HA HA! You may need a few day's supply of Pop Secret™, Joseph. It may take awhile to find the appropriate neck block. I don't want to use just any new chunk; what I'd like to find is a chunk from an old demo'd brownstone in the city - some of those offer planks at least a hundred years old. This is a bass that deserves some quality vintage, I figure. 8)

I have a piece chosen for the new top wing, but won't know if it will really work until I cut it to shape. It's got a great bird's eye match, but some grey rash on the back side. I'm going to keep shopping, but will cut this piece as a trial run in the very least.

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Mmm, I love birdseye!
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That looks pretty good, but you might even want to look at folks that make custom rifle stocks. They usually sell blanks that are graded at various levels of curl, or "fancy".

Prices for a quality blank aren't really that scary, given the general quality of the wood etc.
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Thanks for the heads-up, William. If you have some URL action, feel free to pass it along. Bird's eye can be hard to find in body-wing sizes.

This is the grain on the bottom wing - sort of a murky swirly bird's eye mix, which I dig.

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