4002 pickup guts

[Kopfjaeger]

Did everyone hear that?? That boom in the distance to the east was my freakin jaw hitting the floor! A loaded 4002 pickguard!!!

Mr. Hall, PM sent!

Sepp

[johnhall]

You are going to receive lots of requests, posting pictures like that

...requests that unfortunately we likely won't be able to fulfill. More than anything, these parts are a reference library for us. They've also proved valuable in maintaining my collection, as well as allowing some restorations.

[cassius987]

Here's a totally dumb question but I'll ask anyway. If I have a 4004 pickup rewound with 42 gauge wire and install it in a J position, would it sound like a 4002?

I would doubt it, There is the magnet structure and coil shape to take into consideration as well.. However the simple act of using parallel wiring on the HB-1 would be a good start..

Eden.

42 AWG is supposedly brighter than 44 AWG but the effect is subtle, and I think we all hear plenty of treble frequencies in our Rics, so I'm not sure this is necessarily the deciding factor in the 4002 pickup's tone. One neat thing about the 4002 bridge pickup installed in my 4003FL is the raised resonant peak, which could be the wire gauge or a number of other things (definitely the factors Eden mentioned). When I have used an HB-1 in parallel instead, the tone is similar but overall sounds a little less clear with a stronger emphasis in the low mids. In general parallel humbuckers (as opposed to split-coil pickups like a 4002 pickup or P Bass) never sound as good as I want them to. They give the impression of a neutered single coil. This is probably something to do with the fact that the strings are sensed twice each instead of once, and the signals have to be joined and inevitably modified because of this.

[8mileshigher]

You are going to receive lots of requests, posting pictures like that

[johnhall]

42 AWG is supposedly brighter than 44 AWG but the effect is subtle, and I think we all hear plenty of treble frequencies in our Rics, so I'm not sure this is necessarily the deciding factor in the 4002 pickup's tone.

Let's not lose sight of the fact that ONLY the low-Z coil may or may not have #42 wire. I'd be surprised if one in a thousand ever used the low-Z out, if only because few self-contained amps even have such an input. This was intended to be a board direct output.

The conventional hi-Z coil is still #44.

[Kopfjaeger]

OH WAIT A MINUTE!

I missed the bucket-o-horsies in the first foto!! Now you're just showing off!! Damn, that parts room fotos looks like it has not been swept in a long time. I'd love to put a pair of overalls on and rummage through some of those boxes like a retired person at a garage sale!!

Sepp

[jps]

Finally going through some of that stuff in the cage, nice!

Did anyone else notice the R tailpiece that I presume (probably incorrectly) would be for a 5 string 4005?

[Kopfjaeger]

Finally going through some of that stuff in the cage, nice!

Did anyone else notice the R tailpiece that I presume (probably incorrectly) would be for a 5 string 4005?

No, I obviously had a difficult time getting past the minty 4002 pickguard and the bucket-o-horsies. So that stuff is kept in a locked cage? Probably a pretty good idea since I'd seriously think about standing next to the employee entrance of RIC and offer a cash "reward" for that guard. Think I'm kidding? Ha! No, I'm not!

Sepp

[cjj]

Finally going through some of that stuff in the cage, nice!

Did anyone else notice the R tailpiece that I presume (probably incorrectly) would be for a 5 string 4005?

Yeah, I saw those...

[cjj]

Finally going through some of that stuff in the cage, nice!

Did anyone else notice the R tailpiece that I presume (probably incorrectly) would be for a 5 string 4005?

No, I obviously had a difficult time getting past the minty 4002 pickguard and the bucket-o-horsies. So that stuff is kept in a locked cage? Probably a pretty good idea since I'd seriously think about standing next to the employee entrance of RIC and offer a cash "reward" for that guard. Think I'm kidding? Ha! No, I'm not!

Sepp

I heard it's a locked cage guarded by armed Marines with strategically placed Claymores...

[T.A.R.]

Wow what a treasure trove! Thanks posting them!

[johnhall]

Did anyone else notice the R tailpiece that I presume (probably incorrectly) would be for a 5 string 4005?

I wondered how long it would take for anyone to notice that!

[jps]

It took me about 5 seconds, just enough time to count the slots in it! Where's the rest of the bass?

[bassduke49]

There had been a mention of a five-string 4005 bass years ago, but I never came across further evidence of any existing while accumulating info for the book. I would imagine that particular "R" tailpiece may have been made (or modified) for such a project, but I seriously doubt that a factory 4005/5 will ever turn up.

[johnallg]

Naw, no Yeti here. Just some shtuff.

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Ahhhh, man.......