Silly question probably : does the grommets allow for the setting of the pickups lower than the foam pads ? I've never seen those grommets so that's why I ask. I'd need to lower the neck pu of my 620 just a tiny little bit more but it's already to the lowest possible - whenever I strummm hard, the G string hits the fan. Action on this guitar is even and perfect for me -rather low- so I thought maybe the grommets could do the trick rather than upsetting the whole setup. Maybe another alternative ?
thanks
axel
Pads vs grommets and pickups height
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axel
Sound in the grommet VS pad thing will be passed to Eric Johnson -famed Texas guitarist who clames to have the ability to hear the difference between an Everready alkyline and a Duracell alkyline 9 volt battery.
My thinking ...there is NO sound difference.Eric could prove me wrong however.
The grommets are easily manipulated witha razor blade (this is a factory practice) to achieve a differnt height.That is if the grommet has compressed to it's maximum,the blade can shave a bit off.
The foam leaves a black ring on the face of the instrument ,always has.
The grommets have reacted with finish too but in several ways.
There are two type.
one is rubber the other is vinyl.The cost difference is pennies .Brian Carman used to keep me in good supply when he was the plant manager .
My thinking ...there is NO sound difference.Eric could prove me wrong however.
The grommets are easily manipulated witha razor blade (this is a factory practice) to achieve a differnt height.That is if the grommet has compressed to it's maximum,the blade can shave a bit off.
The foam leaves a black ring on the face of the instrument ,always has.
The grommets have reacted with finish too but in several ways.
There are two type.
one is rubber the other is vinyl.The cost difference is pennies .Brian Carman used to keep me in good supply when he was the plant manager .
So you too want yours "ALAPWOB"?!?!
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axel
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axel
Mark,
I can hear a difference, now that grommets have replaced the foam pads on both 360 and 620: <=2db within the 1200-1600Hz region, when playing 7th-9th fret with a 73 pick ; more so on the 360, probably because of the body induced resonance when going to minor chords.
(nah!, it's just prettier)
and the pups can go lower with the grommets
a.
I can hear a difference, now that grommets have replaced the foam pads on both 360 and 620: <=2db within the 1200-1600Hz region, when playing 7th-9th fret with a 73 pick ; more so on the 360, probably because of the body induced resonance when going to minor chords.
(nah!, it's just prettier)
and the pups can go lower with the grommets
a.
You might try a .065 pick ...I have noticed that the sonic difference is substantial .Also stay away from the red picks ,they have a much different flex ratio than the black or white delrin picks and the +/= return factor ,coupled with the inertia can greatly alter your tone .
One thing that I have also noticed and this came from some guys that are in Perth Australia....using counterclockwise wound strings give you more bottom end.
While clockwise wound strings are crisper and have more high end.
This is due to the rotation of the Earth and can be equated to the phenomenon of water going down the drain .
Northern Hemisphere...clockwise
Southern hemisphere ...counterclockwise
Luckily water at the equator does not go down the drain in a spiral motion but rather is just sucked down .Fortunately we have no string makers near the Equator !I think that a metal tubing of wire would most likely be impractical.
One thing that I have also noticed and this came from some guys that are in Perth Australia....using counterclockwise wound strings give you more bottom end.
While clockwise wound strings are crisper and have more high end.
This is due to the rotation of the Earth and can be equated to the phenomenon of water going down the drain .
Northern Hemisphere...clockwise
Southern hemisphere ...counterclockwise
Luckily water at the equator does not go down the drain in a spiral motion but rather is just sucked down .Fortunately we have no string makers near the Equator !I think that a metal tubing of wire would most likely be impractical.
So you too want yours "ALAPWOB"?!?!
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axel
Talkin' 'bout bottom end, I noticed that using only four gromm's per pup also allows for more bass - you get a sort of exponantial curve when switching the two 'off' grommets from upper-left of the pup to lower-right (counterclockwise, see?), each step leads to a s/n ratio close to what JL once named as 'The Sugar Plum Fairy-Sugar Plum Fairy-sinus equation'.
Now, just plain'n'simple clockwise is another matter although indeed closely related to the above-mentioned patience exercise ('grommet's switching', as called by the Ancient Surfer) but about that I guess you're the best - you could open an ad agency with this and suck down the drain all this doe from all naive musicians all around both hemispheres (and there's plenty - clockwise, counterclockwise, businesswise).
BTW, I use grey picks only because (experience talking here) grey is a middle color so it's kind of neutral, y' know?, and that's one variable less to aprehend.
Now, just plain'n'simple clockwise is another matter although indeed closely related to the above-mentioned patience exercise ('grommet's switching', as called by the Ancient Surfer) but about that I guess you're the best - you could open an ad agency with this and suck down the drain all this doe from all naive musicians all around both hemispheres (and there's plenty - clockwise, counterclockwise, businesswise).
BTW, I use grey picks only because (experience talking here) grey is a middle color so it's kind of neutral, y' know?, and that's one variable less to aprehend.