How late were toasters used on the 4001?

[dr_wahnsinn]

I know that there aren't specific dates for feature changes on all things Rickenbacker, but does anyone have any idea when the toaster ceased to to be standard equipment on the 4001?

The reason I ask is that I have an August '74 4001, which I bought used in August 1977, and it has had a toaster on it since I got it. The toaster has long polepieces, flat head screws holding it together, and measures about 7.5-8k.

While it's possible that it came that way from the factory, do you think it's probable? I'm just curious.


Thanks!

[jps]

That should be original to your bass.

[libratune]

Generally speaking, neck pickup toasters were phased out in mid-1973 for standard 4001 models; however, custom orders were being taken then. As the toaster was in the neck position when you bought it in 1977, my guess is that it was either a custom order or a '60s toaster was installed after it left the factory but before you acquired it. A photo of the toaster lead wire, solder joints and wiring harness might help answer this.

[dr_wahnsinn]

Thanks for the replies.

Unfortunately, the solder connections won't help as I replaced the pots back in the 1980's. I've attached a photo of the underside of the pickup when I last had the pickguard off.

[rikk]

If I recall correctly, I remember an option to install toasters as an up charge as late as the eighties or even early 90's. Is my memory correct?

[rictified]

Rickenbacker generally used left over parts that were hanging around as JH has posted many times. I once had a 75 4001 with half inch spacing and Grover tuners, other early 70's features also. I am sure it came with the bass.

[bassduke49]

If I recall correctly, I remember an option to install toasters as an up charge as late as the eighties or even early 90's. Is my memory correct?

The "vintage pickup" (VP) option was still in effect when I got my 2004 4003 Montezuma Brown. The option was for the bass (neck) pickup only. Don't recall just when, but they stopped offering the option a few years ago.

[dr_wahnsinn]

I guess that at this point, I'll continue to assume that the bass left the factory with the toaster. Thanks for the responses!

[jps]

I guess that at this point, I'll continue to assume that the bass left the factory with the toaster. Thanks for the responses!

That would be an excellent assumption given the bass was only three years old at the time you bought it.