Saw A 4001CS with Real CS Autograph at...
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Saw A 4001CS with Real CS Autograph at...
I visited Lark Street Music in Teaneck NJ (USA) last week (larkstreetmusic.com).
They have a simply gorgeous 4001CS with a real autograph from Chris Squire.
This is the listing from their web site:
*RICKENBACKER 4001 CS, 1991, Limited Edition Chris Squire model, actual signature
on pickguard along with the Factory one, off white, near mint, ohsc, certificate....$4900
If you're interested, give them a call: 201.287.1959
http://larkstreetmusic.com/list/pict/CSsigned.jpg
They have a simply gorgeous 4001CS with a real autograph from Chris Squire.
This is the listing from their web site:
*RICKENBACKER 4001 CS, 1991, Limited Edition Chris Squire model, actual signature
on pickguard along with the Factory one, off white, near mint, ohsc, certificate....$4900
If you're interested, give them a call: 201.287.1959
http://larkstreetmusic.com/list/pict/CSsigned.jpg
Re: Saw A 4001CS with Real CS Autograph at...
Autographs on instruments lower the potential value, to me. I don't find them to be an "enhancement".
Re: Saw A 4001CS with Real CS Autograph at...
Fortunately for you, this hand-signed autograph is on the pickguard. Replace the pickguard - maybe stick it in a drawer to preserve its condition - and it's gone!jps wrote:Autographs on instruments lower the potential value, to me. I don't find them to be an "enhancement".
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Re: Saw A 4001CS with Real CS Autograph at...
K4 4795
Cert No 274
Built November 1, 1991.
http://www.rickresource.com/register/vi ... =51414&bl=
We have 222 of the 1000 built in the register now.. So just over 20%.
Cert No 274
Built November 1, 1991.
http://www.rickresource.com/register/vi ... =51414&bl=
We have 222 of the 1000 built in the register now.. So just over 20%.
Brian Morton
A Rickenbacker Fan
in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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67 FG 625
74 JG 4000
76 JG 430
77 JG 620
77 JG 320
79 MG 450
79 JG 4001
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A Rickenbacker Fan
in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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67 FG 625
74 JG 4000
76 JG 430
77 JG 620
77 JG 320
79 MG 450
79 JG 4001
80 FG 620/12
81 BG 480
91 JG 610
02 BG 620
78 TR7
83 TR25
Re: Saw A 4001CS with Real CS Autograph at...
IIRC it has been determined that somewhere between 800-900 had only been built. So, more than ~20% possibly.Ontario_RIC_fan wrote:We have 222 of the 1000 built in the register now.. So just over 20%.
Re: Saw A 4001CS with Real CS Autograph at...
+1!jps wrote:Autographs on instruments lower the potential value, to me. I don't find them to be an "enhancement".
Maybe on the back of the peghead would be ok, but not showing.
Re: Saw A 4001CS with Real CS Autograph at...
A big part of what makes a 4001CS a limited edition instrument is that pickguard. Other than that, the fingerboard and headstock wings, and paint jobs are the only things that distinguish a CS model from a V63 model. I'll take the V63 for a third the price thanks, if there is no um-modified Sig pickguard on the bass.LenMinNJ wrote:Fortunately for you, this hand-signed autograph is on the pickguard. Replace the pickguard - maybe stick it in a drawer to preserve its condition - and it's gone!jps wrote:Autographs on instruments lower the potential value, to me. I don't find them to be an "enhancement".
Re: Saw A 4001CS with Real CS Autograph at...
I was curious about the skipped serials and analyzed the data:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/he4s8yx6yesz7 ... .xlsx?dl=0
Yep, the huge gap from 882 to 990 is highly suspect.
Spreadsheets rule!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/he4s8yx6yesz7 ... .xlsx?dl=0
Yep, the huge gap from 882 to 990 is highly suspect.
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How about a lefty CS?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-40 ... SwDMhZrYai
Sn = A99814
Cert no. 594
Date of Build: January 15, 1996.
It is in the register already from 1999 listed as being in New Zealand. It was not marked as a Lefty though.
So perhaps this one has the certificate for the other guy's bass? (No image of the jackplate to confirm alas). A mystery.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-40 ... SwDMhZrYai
Sn = A99814
Cert no. 594
Date of Build: January 15, 1996.
It is in the register already from 1999 listed as being in New Zealand. It was not marked as a Lefty though.
So perhaps this one has the certificate for the other guy's bass? (No image of the jackplate to confirm alas). A mystery.
Brian Morton
A Rickenbacker Fan
in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
=========================
67 FG 625
74 JG 4000
76 JG 430
77 JG 620
77 JG 320
79 MG 450
79 JG 4001
80 FG 620/12
81 BG 480
91 JG 610
02 BG 620
78 TR7
83 TR25
A Rickenbacker Fan
in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
=========================
67 FG 625
74 JG 4000
76 JG 430
77 JG 620
77 JG 320
79 MG 450
79 JG 4001
80 FG 620/12
81 BG 480
91 JG 610
02 BG 620
78 TR7
83 TR25
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Re: Saw A 4001CS with Real CS Autograph at...
So... Where DID those missing CS basses get off to? Perhaps they reside with the Sasquatch in the wilderness of the Great Northwest? Maybe they are with Elvis on the mother-ship? RIC Enthusiasts want the truth. Watch for my special series coming soon to the History Channel this fall...jdogric12 wrote:I was curious about the skipped serials and analyzed the data:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/he4s8yx6yesz7 ... .xlsx?dl=0
Yep, the huge gap from 882 to 990 is highly suspect.Spreadsheets rule!
Re: Saw A 4001CS with Real CS Autograph at...
squirebass wrote:So... Where DID those missing CS basses get off to? Perhaps they reside with the Sasquatch in the wilderness of the Great Northwest? Maybe they are with Elvis on the mother-ship? RIC Enthusiasts want the truth. Watch for my special series coming soon to the History Channel this fall...jdogric12 wrote:I was curious about the skipped serials and analyzed the data:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/he4s8yx6yesz7 ... .xlsx?dl=0
Yep, the huge gap from 882 to 990 is highly suspect.Spreadsheets rule!
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Insert "I'm not saying it was aliens... but it was aliens" meme here
Re: Saw A 4001CS with Real CS Autograph at...
So other than the pickguard, the paint, the body, the shape, the wings... Yes it's pretty much the same.jps wrote:A big part of what makes a 4001CS a limited edition instrument is that pickguard. Other than that, the fingerboard and headstock wings, and paint jobs are the only things that distinguish a CS model from a V63 model. I'll take the V63 for a third the price thanks, if there is no um-modified Sig pickguard on the bass.LenMinNJ wrote:Fortunately for you, this hand-signed autograph is on the pickguard. Replace the pickguard - maybe stick it in a drawer to preserve its condition - and it's gone!jps wrote:Autographs on instruments lower the potential value, to me. I don't find them to be an "enhancement".
Other than the shape, the number of strings and the pickup, my Rickenbacker is a Les Paul you know.
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You have so twisted, dude. A 4001CS is a dressed up 4001V63.Nop wrote: So other than the pickguard, the paint, the body, the shape, the wings... Yes it's pretty much the same.
Other than the shape, the number of strings and the pickup, my Rickenbacker is a Les Paul you know.
Explain how you can't tell the difference between your Rickenbacker and a Les Paul. What you said is beyond stupid.
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Because all the bullsh*t you throw in our faces since the beginning of this thread isn't stupid?
Since the beginning of the world, every item you buy with a signature on it is higher priced (I'm not saying that I'm ok with it). But when it's a 4001CS, if there is a real signature on the same pickguard as the printed one, it lowered his value? And the only thing that give value to a CS is the printed signature on the pickguard?
Yes I must be the stupid one in this case
I'm not waiting for a reply because I already know that "you are right, and we all are wrong"
Since the beginning of the world, every item you buy with a signature on it is higher priced (I'm not saying that I'm ok with it). But when it's a 4001CS, if there is a real signature on the same pickguard as the printed one, it lowered his value? And the only thing that give value to a CS is the printed signature on the pickguard?
Yes I must be the stupid one in this case
I'm not waiting for a reply because I already know that "you are right, and we all are wrong"
