What amp with Rickenbacker 330?

oli · Post by **oli** » Sat Jul 28, 2001 1:18 am

Hello!

I'm searching for an amp(and a pedal, maybe) like this:

Good clean sound (AC30) plus
second channel for crunch sounds plus
leadboost or
third channel or
a pedal

I play R.E.M. stuff mainly. Does anyone know how Peter Buck manages switching from clean to crunch? I've seen them live, he did not set the amplifier every time. I think he uses a rat pedal?

markthemd · Post by **markthemd** » Sat Jul 28, 2001 5:13 am

Personally I think that an AC-30 is a troublesome amp with limited chirps and whistles (I am ready for the flaming).Great tone but you need to crank them up and what about their overheating problems?

I have talked to two Amp techs and they said that is still an issue.

I use an old Rat pedal to get my "Jeff Beck" tone with a tweed Fender 1958 Deluxe as the main flavoring .I amp switch using that amp and a Flextone II .WHY?
As i have a Mesa Boogie Mark II and nine other amp?

Convinience ,tone and ease of moving around .

While the Flextone is not 100% dead nuts correct ....it does a great desert island version of most of the amps that are modeled in it .PLUS! I can go on line and change the sounds if I like.

It is the only solid state amp that I own and I play live ,three times per week.

I am also a tube nut ! Surprised ....so am I !

Go try a Line 6 Spyder .

rkbsound · Post by **rkbsound** » Sun Jul 29, 2001 4:45 pm

Oli, I'm with you on trying to get a good Peter Buck sound. I recently picked up a Route 66 pedal and like it a great deal. Especially with the compression (it's a combo pedal: distortion and compression). I use it through my new "Vox" Cambridge 15 and I can get some good sounds for the money out of my 335. I have heard some good reviews about the new Vox line of modelling amps (check out Voxtalks), but I think they are probably out of my price range at the moment. Ideally, I would be using Buck's 360, but that will come in time!

rickplayer · Post by **rickplayer** » Mon Jul 30, 2001 5:23 am

There is a guy from Seattle that custom builds two channel tube amps. Sounds great with a Rickenbacker. Anderson Amplifiers. You may have seen him at guitar shows. 253-857-5154 Jack Anderson. Ask for literature. i have benn playing his amps for 7 years now.

jaybyrd · Post by **jaybyrd** » Mon Jul 30, 2001 1:01 pm

I just play for fun now, but I sure like the sound of my 340/12 thru my Fender Ultimate Chorus.

wmthor · Post by **wmthor** » Mon Jul 30, 2001 3:59 pm

Like Jaybyrd, I play for fun with all three of my RICs through a Silverface Deluxe Reverb and/or Pathfinder; no pedals.

360dave660 · Post by **360dave660** » Mon Jul 30, 2001 9:47 pm

I use a Tech21 Trademark 10 with my 360 & 660-6 strings and you get a lot of tonal variety : fender, marshall & mesa boogie. While an analog device, there are a lot of tube qualities in the tone, plus a US made pro direct recording device that can be hooked to a PA, etc. For examle, you can play a vast aray of gains from slight crunch to outright distortion à la ACDC, even with a 360. It is much better performer than my vox pathfinder as s/s go.

Good luck.

dave

oli · Post by **oli** » Tue Jul 31, 2001 9:34 am

Thank you.
How do you all switch from a distorted rhythm sound to a lead sound without a (second) pedal or a lead channel?
I think switching the PUs on the guitar is a problem because the tone changes to much. Regulating the volume is a problem when using both pickups as I mostly do.
JPhelps: What do you mean with Voxtalks? Is this another forum? And do I understand you right: Vox builds modelling amps? I am interested in modelling amps as well. As I come from Germany, maybe I will take a look at the Hughes and Kettner Zentera (I think its VERY expensive in the USA?)

360dave660 · Post by **360dave660** » Tue Jul 31, 2001 9:44 pm

Effectively that is a drawback with a trademark 10 : there is no floor switch. You have to stop playing and switch the settings. For example, you can get a fenderesque clean sound with "tweed (fender amp sim.)/clean/UK (greenback speaker setting)" and then switch the nobs to get a heavy metal sound with "california (mesa/b)/hot (distortion)/us (jensen speaker simulation)". There are no pedals involved, but, you need to stop between songs to change the settings and adjust the equalisation levels. The Trademark is a modelling amp (analogue versus digital)made in the usa. It runs about 350 EURos in the EU and also comes in a more expensive 60-watt version. There are rave reviews (guitar player) for the zenTera, but, it also costs over 2,000 EUROs, even in Europe ! Voxtalks is a similar forum to this one.

oli · Post by **oli** » Wed Aug 01, 2001 4:08 am

Well - so the trademark 10 will not be my solution.
What about the mentioned Fender amps - do they have 2 channels?
Is there no other amp known to one of you with a good clean- and a good crunch channel?
The list price for the Zentera is about 2250 Euros, I think I could get it for 2000. In Harmony Central somebody talked about a "Vetta" or similiar. What is this?

oli · Post by **oli** » Fri Oct 05, 2001 9:31 am

Finally I decided to buy an AX2. I have no comparison to most of the amps it emulates, but there a large differences between a "fat" AC30 or a bright Jazz Chorus clean sound, for example.
Everything sounds good(clean and hi-gain) or at least OK(crunch and real heavy-metal hi-gain) to me.
And off course now I have MIDI, so that I have made about 20 presets (for two different guitars). I could live with three and always set the amps potentiometers. But why? It's much more comfortable this way.
And off course I have an effects unit built in.
And the Aux-channel that I can use for Acoustic and mandolin, at least at home and at rehearsals.

aladams · Post by **aladams** » Thu Nov 15, 2001 5:54 pm

Personally, I'd much rather use my old Rickenbacker Supersonic (4x10) with Bass and Treble boost. However, your 59 Tweed Bassman will surfice! Next, I'd grab myself a Tweed Twin, and let it wail!!!! Have fun! AL A.

aaron · Post by **aaron** » Sat Nov 17, 2001 7:57 am

I use a Hughes & Kettner Duotone combo with my 360CW and 360/12CW. It's 50 watts, all tube, has one 12 inch Celestion vintage 30 speaker, two channels, an effects loop, two master volume levels and a gain boost for the overdrive channel. The amp is designed to produce a "British sound"(Marshall, Vox,etc.) but have it's own sound. Both channels are great and give me the tone I've always wanted. It sounds like a 2x12 rather than a 1x12, plenty loud. I guess it evens out the low output of the toasters. It's pretty expensive but well worth it.