A Tuning Upgrade Experience

Early years of Rickenbacker Guitars prior to and including 1972

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Liam
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A Tuning Upgrade Experience

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Thanks for the help with my electronics. I thought Id make a contribution as a gesture gratefullness.
Being a pro stage tech for many years Im always looking to find ways to do things quicker, esier and less expensive.

After several rounds of restringing to dial in the fretwork and setup, I was getting pretty worn out and costing me strings too, as well as mucho frustration trying to reuse the used strings —so I decided to find a long-term solution to make any future work easier.

I picked up two packs of these Grover vintage style tuners. They have slots like the old Fender 50's teles and strats. For the regular strings, they worked perfectly. However, in having no holes to feed the strings through, the octave strings posed a challenge: the existing slots couldn’t be used because the neck obstructed access.

To solve this,instead of attempting the risky task of drilling through the shaft, which could compromise its strength and be just as before with the Klusons.
I used a Dremel with a small diamond bit to deepen the slots. And thus by increasing the slot depth on just one side, I was able to access the string hole easily. Having it on only one side also prevented the string from going through as well as help guide it into the shaft. This approach made stringing much simpler than it was with the original tuners.

Now, the strings can be bent to a slight angle, slipped into the shaft quickly and smoothly. I even used old bent up string when I tested it and it was easy.
The Made-in-Korea Grovers look and perform beautifully—and the 60-year-old Klusons can finally retire to the case, or to resell or trash...where ever! 😄.

Now if I could only figure out how to put the two ball ends in that single hole bridge efficiently I'd be all set.
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Re: A Tuning Upgrade Experience

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On my 12-string, I kept the original Kluson tuners for the light weight. What I did on the slotted tuners was to purchase a set of nickel stamped mandolin ferrules. I trimmed the flanges so they would fit. This provided a bearing surface to the tuners, eliminated the offset pull, and all to provide better tuning stability. Headstock pic attached. Here is the result. Click on the link in this thread: viewtopic.php?t=417275
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Re: A Tuning Upgrade Experience

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thanks for the interest. I like that idea. Im going to see if I can make tha happen next time I change the strings.
I never thought about it during the install but I still have the set that came with the ones I used.
The original Klusons on this guitar were not great. They had been packed with some black stuff and were wonnky when they turned and always going flat after pulling from the case. These odd Grovers were much le$$ too.
The difference is night and day.
Also in regards to my slot lengthening thing. I found I did not make them long enough, once or twice I had some difficulty as the string wanted to go in the opposite direction out the top of the post.
I will see if I can use your idea when I do some more work on it and increase the slot length as well.
I may be awhile getting back to working on it as I picked up a new compressor yesterday so Ill have some creative fun going on for the next week or two.
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Re: A Tuning Upgrade Experience

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Do you plan on selling the original set? I have an instrument they'd be great for.
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