If I Needed Someone:
Do you Capo the 2nd fret and play the bass note on the G strings (open), and the rest on the high E strings?
What songs do you like to play on your 12 string?
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bill_yantz
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Don’t forget:
Eight Days a Week
If I needed Someone
Our band, The DialTones do these with the CW 12-string (we use the 12-string on a few others because it creates an added dimension which is very valuable for a 3-piece band.
I Call Your Name
You Can't Do That
Anytime at All
Mr. Tambourine Man
If I needed Someone
Ticket to Ride
Eight Days a Week
Ferry Across the Mersey
Don't Let the Sun Catch You Crying
I'm the One (Gerry and The Pacemakers)
Extra stuff:
Before I got the CW12 a few months ago, on these songs I was using a CW 6-string with a Boss Analog Chrous and together it created a very nice and believable sound combination. The real beauty in this setup is it gives me the ability to play the 12-string riffs that are the songs trademark and switch off the chorus for the chunky rhythm parts while singing the verses. Good examples of this are two songs: first, I Call Your Name. Opening riff with chorus on; I dropout when I sing "I call your..." at which time I switch off the chorus and come in with the standard CW Ric Jangle on - NAME - chunking Lennon's ballsy rhythm. Sounds incredible. On the lead however I played the upstroke Lennon rhythm with compressor on when the whole band changes the rhythmic sound. Honestly, until I mentioned it, the drummer and bass player never realized that I didn't play George's lead part. It's all part of making the sound as believable as possible with 3-pieces, it's convincing.
One other example is YCDT. Again, the typical "George 12-string riff in the opening with chorus and then switched off during "I've got..." and back to Lennon's rhythm on "something... This one is really authentic sounding because John's rhythm with his 325 is dominant in the sound and classic Rickenbacker. It really sounds nice. Then on John's lead part I switched to bridge PU and additional volume and, live, this approach works. It's a faithful reproduction and fun to do.
Now, with the CW12 string, I play the lead on ICYN and use the 12 on the lead for YCDT. The key to making these songs sound believable is a Ric vintage toasters or modern scatterwound toasters. It losses too much with other guitars such as the Gretsch and 'Rev" Casino I’ve tried on these songs. Note: a compressor is important.
With all that said, I wouldn't give up my Ric 12-string for anything. In fact, If was told I had to pick only one guitar out of the mix, for the style we play, it would be this one. That's right. IMO, the Ric 12-string is the most versatile guitar for what we do and the sound is pure heaven with my AC30TBX. However, what would suffer is when we divert to our Rock-a-billy songs we insert into the mix, but you get the point. The Ric 12 is NOT a one trick pony!!!
Eight Days a Week
If I needed Someone
Our band, The DialTones do these with the CW 12-string (we use the 12-string on a few others because it creates an added dimension which is very valuable for a 3-piece band.
I Call Your Name
You Can't Do That
Anytime at All
Mr. Tambourine Man
If I needed Someone
Ticket to Ride
Eight Days a Week
Ferry Across the Mersey
Don't Let the Sun Catch You Crying
I'm the One (Gerry and The Pacemakers)
Extra stuff:
Before I got the CW12 a few months ago, on these songs I was using a CW 6-string with a Boss Analog Chrous and together it created a very nice and believable sound combination. The real beauty in this setup is it gives me the ability to play the 12-string riffs that are the songs trademark and switch off the chorus for the chunky rhythm parts while singing the verses. Good examples of this are two songs: first, I Call Your Name. Opening riff with chorus on; I dropout when I sing "I call your..." at which time I switch off the chorus and come in with the standard CW Ric Jangle on - NAME - chunking Lennon's ballsy rhythm. Sounds incredible. On the lead however I played the upstroke Lennon rhythm with compressor on when the whole band changes the rhythmic sound. Honestly, until I mentioned it, the drummer and bass player never realized that I didn't play George's lead part. It's all part of making the sound as believable as possible with 3-pieces, it's convincing.
One other example is YCDT. Again, the typical "George 12-string riff in the opening with chorus and then switched off during "I've got..." and back to Lennon's rhythm on "something... This one is really authentic sounding because John's rhythm with his 325 is dominant in the sound and classic Rickenbacker. It really sounds nice. Then on John's lead part I switched to bridge PU and additional volume and, live, this approach works. It's a faithful reproduction and fun to do.
Now, with the CW12 string, I play the lead on ICYN and use the 12 on the lead for YCDT. The key to making these songs sound believable is a Ric vintage toasters or modern scatterwound toasters. It losses too much with other guitars such as the Gretsch and 'Rev" Casino I’ve tried on these songs. Note: a compressor is important.
With all that said, I wouldn't give up my Ric 12-string for anything. In fact, If was told I had to pick only one guitar out of the mix, for the style we play, it would be this one. That's right. IMO, the Ric 12-string is the most versatile guitar for what we do and the sound is pure heaven with my AC30TBX. However, what would suffer is when we divert to our Rock-a-billy songs we insert into the mix, but you get the point. The Ric 12 is NOT a one trick pony!!!
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johnashfield
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When I first got my 360/12 I was using a 360 as my main guitar and figured I would just switch for certain tunes to the 12.
Well, everyone in the band would start complaining whenever I went to the 6! So now I just play the 360/12, with the 360 as a backup.
Some neat songs to play... "Girl I knew Somewhere" and "Pleasant Valley Sunday" by The Monkees. The neat thing about "Pleasant Valley..." is obviously the riff, a cool thing about it is when the bass and the other instruments go to a G while that riff is over an open A string. We are a 3 piece so I keep playing the A riff hitting the G and B pairs!
"Lips like Sugar" by Echo & the Bunnymen also sounds great on the 360/12.
Well, everyone in the band would start complaining whenever I went to the 6! So now I just play the 360/12, with the 360 as a backup.
Some neat songs to play... "Girl I knew Somewhere" and "Pleasant Valley Sunday" by The Monkees. The neat thing about "Pleasant Valley..." is obviously the riff, a cool thing about it is when the bass and the other instruments go to a G while that riff is over an open A string. We are a 3 piece so I keep playing the A riff hitting the G and B pairs!
"Lips like Sugar" by Echo & the Bunnymen also sounds great on the 360/12.
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jingle_jangle
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Yeah--my fingers found that riff all by themselves last night. Tribal memory or sumthin'. Amazing coincidence.
“I say in speeches that a plausible mission of artists is to make people appreciate being alive at least a little bit. I am then asked if I know of any artists who pulled that off. I reply, 'The Beatles did.”
― Kurt Vonnegut
― Kurt Vonnegut
The only Ric I have is my 360-6 string,however I have a Carvin AE185/12,very nice,anyway I play
Margaritaville
Pirate at age fourty
He went to Paris
Behind Blue Eyes
Hotel California
Paint it Black
Tambo Man
Blue Eyes Cryin in the Rain
Amazing Grace
Last Train to Clarksville,
and serveral more that I can't even think of offhand!
Paul
Margaritaville
Pirate at age fourty
He went to Paris
Behind Blue Eyes
Hotel California
Paint it Black
Tambo Man
Blue Eyes Cryin in the Rain
Amazing Grace
Last Train to Clarksville,
and serveral more that I can't even think of offhand!
Paul
If it's worth doin,it's worth doin right!
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simoncroft
As I've only got a 360/6 recently - and this is my first Rick - I'm not really qualified to contribute. But with a bit of pedal power it covers the 12-string area very well.
Personal Beatles favourites include Hard Day's Night and You've Got To Hide Your Love Away.
As for everone else's song suggestions, if I don't know 'em, I'm about to learn 'em! A classic set list.
When I'm at home, I play them on my 1963 Hofner 12 acoustic but I really want a Rick 12 now!
Personal Beatles favourites include Hard Day's Night and You've Got To Hide Your Love Away.
As for everone else's song suggestions, if I don't know 'em, I'm about to learn 'em! A classic set list.
When I'm at home, I play them on my 1963 Hofner 12 acoustic but I really want a Rick 12 now!