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Re: 4004Cii Cheyenne Trustrod Problem

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:34 pm
by rickenbrother
jps wrote:More like the late '60s 4001 experimental bass shown in the Smith book.
So you don't want a 4004JPS?!?
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Re: 4004Cii Cheyenne Trustrod Problem

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:21 am
by blueflamerick
Robert, I'd recommend giving Steve Soest a call.

http://www.virtualvintageguitars.com/services.html

Re: 4004Cii Cheyenne Trustrod Problem

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:24 am
by nukebass
Out of my ignorance I must ask, how did RIC get the rods in if the bass has to be routed to get the rods out? Also, are the rods threaded in the neck or do they just sit in the neck and tighten at each end?

Re: 4004Cii Cheyenne Trustrod Problem

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:45 am
by blueflamerick
I imagine RIC puts the truss rods in before gluing the fretboard on.

Re: 4004Cii Cheyenne Trustrod Problem

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:28 am
by jingle_jangle
Robert, sounds like you couldn't trust that rod...

The rods have threading at both ends. The bridge/body end has a locking hexnut and capnut, jammed against each other in a friction-sized recess, and the headstock end has the ubiquitous long (standoff) nut.

Re: 4004Cii Cheyenne Trustrod Problem

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:05 pm
by aceonbass
Hmmm...okay. I retract my earlier offer to assist in repairing this instrument.

Re: 4004Cii Cheyenne Trustrod Problem

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:07 pm
by markbass99
Here's a pic of Jeff Scott's old Cii with the truss rod repair routes that were done at RIC under warranty I believe. These routes came in handy when I was having truss rod problems due to the rods having a lot of curve in them. Since this bass is a five string now truss rod performance is critical but everything is fine now.

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Re: 4004Cii Cheyenne Trustrod Problem

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:37 pm
by rickenbrother
Hey Mark, I see you are using a taper core B string. I want to try those on my Cii/5 basses because I think they wound vibrate and fit better on the ABM bridge. What are your thoughts on the taper wound B strings on that bass?

Re: 4004Cii Cheyenne Trustrod Problem

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:31 pm
by jps
Joey, that looks better, but could you move the bridge pickup a litle bit further from the bridge? :mrgreen:

Oh yeah, make the pickups toasters while your at it! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Re: 4004Cii Cheyenne Trustrod Problem

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:04 pm
by rickenbrother
jps wrote:Joey, that looks better, but could you move the bridge pickup a litle bit further from the bridge? :mrgreen:

Oh yeah, make the pickups toasters while your at it! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
You want the bass headless too?!? :twisted: :mrgreen:

Re: 4004Cii Cheyenne Trustrod Problem

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:14 pm
by jps
Nah! :shock:

Re: 4004Cii Cheyenne Trustrod Problem

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:46 pm
by specky
My Luthier, John Wescott, is willing to tackle the job, and I don't mind, at all, the routing pictured in Jeff Scott's old Cii. It looks kind of cool, and, as mentioned, it will be easier to replace a trustrod if it goes bad again. My problem is finding the parts. I've checked all the resources mentioned in this thread except Rickenbacker, who are down till Jan 2nd. I've found in the past that Rickenbacker are very cold and unhelpful, when it comes to helping out owners of their basses. So, by chance, if I strike out there,anyone looking in on this posting knows another source for trustrods, I would appreciate the link. I've tried Pick of the Ricks and Mike Parks, and a few other Rick dealers, i.e. Ed Roman, so keep me in mind if anyone has any other suggestions. Jeff Rath mentioned that he might have one floating around, but I'd hate to buy your spare Jeff, when I see that trustrod replacement on the Cii's seems to be a bit common. I'll try Rickenbacker in the New Year. In the mean time, I would like to wish everyone in this Forum, a safe, healthy, and happy holiday and New Year. I own 12 Ricks and find this forum to be a great place to keep up my knowledge of an instrument that I truely love.

Robert W. Birch

Re: 4004Cii Cheyenne Trustrod Problem

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:53 pm
by specky
Joey Vasco,

Is your JetGlo Cii stock, or did you have it refinished by someone? Just curious, because it shines like a diamond.

Robert Birch

Re: 4004Cii Cheyenne Trustrod Problem

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:03 pm
by rickenbrother
Robert, it is a factory Jetglo finish. I call it the Black & Bling (aka Brian's fault :mrgreen: ).
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