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Re: Repairing A Chip

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:03 pm
by ryan.jones
that scanner at the local shurwen-willums is amazing. i took a mid-sixties 4001 with a ding to them, had then scan the colors right next to the chip, and they came up with a (minimum order) pint of something that filled it perfectly. i used a toothpick to put it in, and had to do it nine times until it was level with the rest of the finish. a little 1000 grit later, and you cannot see that the chip was ever there. yippie paint store with the newest scanner thingie :D

Re: Repairing A Chip

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:05 pm
by rickenbrother
What finish does that 4001 have, Ryan?

Re: Repairing A Chip

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:46 pm
by paologregorio
And what type of paint would one ask for?

Re: Repairing A Chip

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:25 am
by paologregorio
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Re: Repairing A Chip

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:10 am
by jingle_jangle
Jumping in:

This must be a house paint type store; none of my car paint places use a computer/scanner; it's useless except for solid colors, and then it won't adjust for the usual issue of paint drying lighter or darker than it is when liquid in the can.

I'm sure manufacturers have some sort of very pricey analysis equipment, but to my knowledge, none of it has filtered down to the local level.

I had a lathe the got badly chipped in transit to my shop; I took a panel to my local machinery paint store, who do have a scanner. They matched it perfectly, in the can. Once it dried, it was about two shades darker (it was a very light gray).

A scanner will not deliver a match on any sort of pearlescent, candy, two or three-stage finish, or metallic. If the match you got was for an area of FG, you probably got an opaque match that would work as a "cheat" for a tiny area, which took into account not only the transparent FG dye, but the wood behind it, which acts as a reflective surface to bounce light back through the dye to your eye. I have some FG "cheats" mixed up, that I rarely will use to hide a knot or a bad bit of grain or a filled dent in a FG refinish.

Re: Repairing A Chip

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:57 pm
by rickenbrother
I'll just try to find some yellow and orange nail polishes tomorrow morning to mix into red nail polish. Maybe I can make an acceptable color match.

Re: Repairing A Chip

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:23 pm
by kiramdear
rickenbrother wrote:I'll just try to find some yellow and orange nail polishes tomorrow morning to mix into red nail polish. Maybe I can make an acceptable color match.
Joey, remember to let your test samples harden thoroughly before comparison, as the color shifts during drying. :)

Re: Repairing A Chip

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:32 pm
by johnallg
kiramdear wrote:
rickenbrother wrote:I'll just try to find some yellow and orange nail polishes tomorrow morning to mix into red nail polish. Maybe I can make an acceptable color match.
Joey, remember to let your test samples harden thoroughly before comparison, as the color shifts during drying. :)
Something a guy wouldn't have known! My black dries black! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Repairing A Chip

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:38 pm
by jingle_jangle
kiramdear wrote:
rickenbrother wrote:I'll just try to find some yellow and orange nail polishes tomorrow morning to mix into red nail polish. Maybe I can make an acceptable color match.
Joey, remember to let your test samples harden thoroughly before comparison, as the color shifts during drying. :)
I apologize if I am beginning to sound picky and pedantic; Kira...but transparent/translucent colors generally do not shift during drying; this is a characteristic of solid colors, specifically pastels. Just want to be accurate, here. :wink:

Re: Repairing A Chip

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 7:09 pm
by kiramdear
Thanks, Paul, that's fine, I didn't know that about transparents :) Would those be the ones they use in nail lacqer? They don't seem real transparent when you put them on...

Re: Repairing A Chip

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:09 pm
by rickenbrother
kiramdear wrote:
rickenbrother wrote:I'll just try to find some yellow and orange nail polishes tomorrow morning to mix into red nail polish. Maybe I can make an acceptable color match.
Joey, remember to let your test samples harden thoroughly before comparison, as the color shifts during drying. :)
Thanks for the heads-up, Kira. I'll have my resident nail polish expert/wearer check it out first. :D

I'll probably also post pics of possible shades.

Re: Repairing A Chip

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:18 pm
by jingle_jangle
kiramdear wrote:Thanks, Paul, that's fine, I didn't know that about transparents :) Would those be the ones they use in nail lacqer? They don't seem real transparent when you put them on...
All except the most vibrant solid reds and maroons will transmit light, Kira. Dab some on a window pane to verify this. Even some black nail polishes are see-through to some extent.

Re: Repairing A Chip

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:49 pm
by jps
rickenbrother wrote:
kiramdear wrote:
rickenbrother wrote:I'll just try to find some yellow and orange nail polishes tomorrow morning to mix into red nail polish. Maybe I can make an acceptable color match.
Joey, remember to let your test samples harden thoroughly before comparison, as the color shifts during drying. :)
Thanks for the heads-up, Kira. I'll have my resident nail polish expert/wearer check it out first. :D

I'll probably also post pics of possible shades.
I see, so now Diane's nails have to match whatever bass you gigging with that night? :lol:

Re: Repairing A Chip

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:03 am
by rickenbrother
jps wrote:I see, so now Diane's nails have to match whatever bass you gigging with that night? :lol:
Don't give her any ideas!! :shock:

Re: Repairing A Chip

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:30 pm
by rickenbrother
Well, I've had lousy luck so far trying to find a good yellow or orange. The ones I've found have been metallic! :twisted: