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Re: 2009 Rics.........

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:00 pm
by jingle_jangle
The old Fender Jag thing. George B. and his Fender tech have been messing around, trying to set up one of his Strats so it has the option to sound like a Jag. One of the things they've done is put in 1M pots. It is darned close (the remaining and minor difference could be accounted for by pickup location and longer scale length.)

I'm putting together a 450S that I plan on using for surf. It was originally going to have Jag pickups hidden in toaster cases, but now it's going out with gennie old ('67) toasters, and 1M pots for both volume and tone.

Re: 2009 Rics.........

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:59 pm
by freshmattyp
jingle_jangle wrote:You've got that right, Rob. It's like they couldn't decide how to get around Rick's design, so they just...

...made it as stupid and ugly as they could.

Does anyone else reading this have an issue with the sound of a 12-string guitar with humbuckers?
Eye of the behoder, I guess. I think they are cool as heck, and the neck is nice and wide,

Re: 2009 Rics.........

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:25 pm
by goofyfoot
jingle_jangle wrote:That thang needs a longer headstock...
Now, cut that out, Paul! You have entirely too much time on your hands, brah. Sheeesh, that was rich. Thanks for sharing. Peace, out.....Goofyfoot.

Re: 2009 Rics.........

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:59 am
by doctorwho
Mateybob wrote:... A white 360WB with full width inlays, chrome hardware, white scratchplate/TRC and black/white chequered binding ...
Except for the checked binding, that brings to mind the 360/12v64 WHT that sold a while back on eBay ... that was one bea-u-tiful guitar! :)

Re: 2009 Rics.........

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:30 am
by fireglo67
doctorwho wrote:
Mateybob wrote:... A white 360WB with full width inlays, chrome hardware, white scratchplate/TRC and black/white chequered binding ...
Except for the checked binding, that brings to mind the 360/12v64 WHT that sold a while back on eBay ... that was one bea-u-tiful guitar! :)
Don't suppose anyone has photos of this guitar?

Re: 2009 Rics.........

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:29 pm
by dustymurphy
jingle_jangle wrote:You've got that right, Rob. It's like they couldn't decide how to get around Rick's design, so they just...

...made it as stupid and ugly as they could.

Does anyone else reading this have an issue with the sound of a 12-string guitar with humbuckers?
I found a lovely Jimmy Page style double-neck at a Garage Sale in Lawrence about eight years back for $350. It hadn't been taken care of really, several chips and dings, missing chunk of binding on the bottom edge of the 6-string neck, belt buckle rash so bad it looked like someone had worn a file on their buckle. There's also quite a few dings all over the body. It will NEVER be mistaken as a guitar that someone's really taken great care of. However, it plays like a dream. It has open/exposed looking zebra humbuckers on the 6-string neck with these funny pickup "covers" that have cutouts directly over the top of the pickups that protect them but also let you view the coils, and it gives them a slighty different sound than a standard open coil, but the 12-string has covered pickups. I don't play Zeppelin songs or even Zeppelin style, but I liked the versatility of the guitar when I found it, as I had been using a matching Aria 6 and 12-string 330 copies on stage, and this seemed like it would be fun and unique. However, the 12-string neck on the guitar has come to be one of my all time favorite 12-strings. It doesn't sound like you'd expect it to, it's smoother and not as thick as most humbucker sounds (although I wouldn't call them thin sounding) and has a quite single-coil feel with a nice bit of compression. It will NEVER been mistaken for a Rickenbacker when you hear it. But it doesn't sound bad at all, especially though the neck. I have played a couple of different 12-string/humbucker combos in the years since and haven't liked them at all, they just didn't feel right at all sound-wise. I guess what I'm saying is that most of them I have an issue with, but I take them on a case by case basis.

(I apologize if this doesn't make any sense, I have a kidney stone and they're treating it with Percocet. Which is making me feel very odd and not okay. I know I've been rambling in person in my speaking, so I hope that it doesn't come across that way right now.)

Re: 2009 Rics.........

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:06 am
by myfretless
Is there an official word yet on a 2009 COY or other items?

Re: 2009 Rics.........

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:11 am
by carr
jingle_jangle wrote:That thang needs a longer headstock...
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Its multipurpose. In autumn you can rake up the leaves with it

Re: 2009 Rics.........

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:44 am
by jps
myfretless wrote:Is there an official word yet on a 2009 COY or other items?
Kenny told a couple of us at MARF.

Re: 2009 Rics.........

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:30 pm
by kennyhowes
jps wrote:
myfretless wrote:Is there an official word yet on a 2009 COY or other items?
Kenny told a couple of us at MARF.
Shhh!

Re: 2009 Rics.........

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:53 pm
by AQuickOne
The 2009 COY is............................
Everybodys "Blue Boy","Blueburst", or "Autumnglo" finally arriving in the mail after 2 years!

Re: 2009 Rics.........

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:12 pm
by firstbassman
Interesting ... there are about four different threads in the past few days that mention the Italia Rimini 12-string.

Look, there are several members of this forum (including me) who own Rimini-12s. They are very decent guitars for the money and a necessary "evil" if you will for those of us who are neck-width challenged.

Other Points:

The headstock is no longer than any other non-RIC 12-string. (Ever see that Fender 12 that Johnny Winter used to play!?)

I don’t see a resemblance to Rickenbacker instruments … other than yeah they’re both guitars … they have strings, etc.

JH has stated many times that the cats eye sound hole is not a registered unique design to Rickenbacker. It is of “German origin” I believe he has said.

The Wilkinson Humbuckers would not be my first choice on a 12-string guitar but with the tone turned all the way to Treble and the bridge pup only selected, the tone is just fine. RIC, after all, installs hi-gains on their 12s, not Toasters anymore.

Re: 2009 Rics.........

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:15 pm
by jps
kennyhowes wrote:
jps wrote:
myfretless wrote:Is there an official word yet on a 2009 COY or other items?
Kenny told a couple of us at MARF.
Shhh!
Mums the word, Kenny! :wink:

Re: 2009 Rics.........

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:15 pm
by deaconblues
If you really want an imitation Ric 12, there is a more attractive RIC-licensed option:
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The Chandler 555.

Re: 2009 Rics.........

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:36 am
by jcreasy
Those 355s are not 12's. The slotted headstock was designed after a classical guitar to pull more tension over the nut but they are still 6 strings. They do not make that style headstock anymore... Still 3 x 3 design. Also, no longer set neck. Bolt neck. Still great guitar and it rocks. I've got one made in 2005 or so. Their sound is very unique but useable. If that makes sense.

JKC