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You lot should read the comments at Gibson's site. Praising this new SG 12, but bashing Ric...

JakeK wrote:You lot should read the comments at Gibson's site. Praising this new SG 12, but bashing Ric...

Doesn't bother me at all. We all know Ricks are far superior!

Yeah, I know, but it's the Gibson guys who fail to give Ric a chance. I've given Gibson a chance, and I love the SG 6-string, the Firebird and the ES-175 and 335 models.

I like their guitars, I used to play an early 80s 335 dot inlay model- loved it. (Looked just like the one Dave Edmunds used to play.) I would like to get an SG soon. My biggest complaint about them is their prices. They are CRAZY! Does it seem like the prices are a bit off the hook, or is it just me being a tight-wad?

JakeK wrote:Yeah, I know, but it's the Gibson guys who fail to give Ric a chance. I've given Gibson a chance, and I love the SG 6-string, the Firebird and the ES-175 and 335 models.

I suppose that would tend to point out the superiority of Rick players as well...

Halbert wrote:I like their guitars, I used to play an early 80s 335 dot inlay model- loved it. (Looked just like the one Dave Edmunds used to play.) I would like to get an SG soon. My biggest complaint about them is their prices. They are CRAZY! Does it seem like the prices are a bit off the hook, or is it just me being a tight-wad?

You pay for the name! I tried some gibson guitars and they were terrible, now an old gibson, they are nice '74 LP custom fretless wonder...WOW.
Gibson became popular and started not caring.
RIC became popular and still cares!...Thats the definition of quality.

stsang wrote:

JakeK wrote:You lot should read the comments at Gibson's site. Praising this new SG 12, but bashing Ric...

Doesn't bother me at all. We all know Ricks are far superior!

+1

This new SG-12 sounds amazing. I got to check one out this past month at Gear Fest during the Gibson booth.

Spike- wrote:This new SG-12 sounds amazing. I got to check one out this past month at Gear Fest during the Gibson booth.

It is less expensive than a Rick 12-string, so that will hopefully help increase the number of 12-string players! People on this forum complain about the 12K toaster sounding "too dark" and "muddy" so heaven knows what they'll make of the HBs on this guitar!

shamustwin wrote:Jimmy Page pretty much used a Fender 12 on the recordings, IIRC.

He complained a lot about the doubleneck, too - It apparently picked up any radiostation in whatever town Zeppelin played it.

For the record, Peter Buck used Mitch Easter's Fender 12 for the first two REM albums. He seemed pretty keen on Rickenbacker 12s for Fables, though.

I don't think it's Gibson or MF bashing Ric as much as saying, "Hey, here's an alternative."

Ain'tGotNoPokemon wrote:

shamustwin wrote:I don't think it's Gibson or MF bashing Ric as much as saying, "Hey, here's an alternative."

I agree with that. It doesn't hurt to have other 12-string electrics out there to grow the 12-string market. I'm sure the SG-12 sounds very different from any Ric. In that sense they're not really competing. If you read the comments on the Gibson site, it's clear that (for several reasons) those players would never buy a Ric 12-string anyway.

Ain'tGotNoPokemon wrote:

shamustwin wrote:Jimmy Page pretty much used a Fender 12 on the recordings, IIRC.

He complained a lot about the doubleneck, too - It apparently picked up any radiostation in whatever town Zeppelin played it.

For the record, Peter Buck used Mitch Easter's Fender 12 for the first two REM albums. He seemed pretty keen on Rickenbacker 12s for Fables, though.

I don't think it's Gibson or MF bashing Ric as much as saying, "Hey, here's an alternative."

Thats really weird! At guitar center a couple years ago, I played a used epi LP and it picked up radio stations.

IvanMunoz wrote:Thats really weird! At guitar center a couple years ago, I played a used epi LP and it picked up radio stations.

My Rick360/12 picks up radio stations too if I partially insert a TR cable into the mono jack on the guitar. Once the jack is in fully, the reception disappears. I haven't figured out yet how to tune to different stations.

With all due respect to Gibson, who does make fine guitars, and I've owned two Les Pauls, and currently own a J45, a mahogany 12-string does not "cut through the mix." I've heard concerts where a guitar player played a mahogany 12-string, and this particular one had P-90's to boot, was so mid-range heavy it sounded like a bad chorus pedal instead of a 12-string.

IvanMunoz wrote:Question here, is the stringing method on Rick 12's trademarked?

You can't trademark a stringing method, to my knowledge.

When is Gibson going to reissue the 335/12??