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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:58 am
by wints
That bound F hole is cool...
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:52 am
by firstbassman
I've mentioned this before, but since the Lightshow has come up again.
Peter's site, says the LS4005 pictured belonged to Jack Casady. But Jack told me he never owned a Ric bass. Peter or JH, can you shed some light (pun intended) on this? Your source? Any confirming info?
PS1: I do understand it was the 60s and there are lots of things Casady (and many of us) don't remember.
PS2: I'm going to see Jack in a few weeks so can ask a follow-up.
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:40 am
by ilan
No amount of recreational chemistry can make a person forget he owned THAT bass.
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:27 pm
by johnhall
It's my understanding that the bass was owned by the group collectively and kept in storage along with many other instruments when the band maintained an office in San Francisco. I was thinking it was Peter Sears that brought this to them.
It disappeared at some unknown point until it was located, gutted, at a pawn shop in Albuquerque. When it came to my attention, I phoned the Starship who chose to make no claim for it. I told a friend of mine who then drove there and bought it back; I completely restored it for him using a spare set of circuit boards and fresnel fronts that I had.
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:51 pm
by rickcrazy
"...recreational chemistry..." LMAO!
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:23 pm
by marc61
Ilan, actually the "recreational chemistry" might make one think they owned a bass like that even if it didn't exist

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:42 pm
by jps
I just know I owned a 4005LS back in the '70s!
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:37 pm
by j_gary
Jeff, what was the story on your LS?
New, used, sound & feel, pricing? Get more girls?
Whose bright (get it?) idea was it to sell?
I remember thinking they were silly things. Now I'm thinking I'm a silly thing.
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:51 pm
by jnbass
was it a 4005LS or just LS/D?

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 2:58 am
by marc61
It's interesting that the LS was the ultimate show guitar made during a time of ultimate shows...
You would have thought more would be produced. Not sure what the price point was on these, maybe regular folk couldn't afford to buy'em and rockstars want them on the arm.
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:01 am
by lars
If you think of it, lightshow's are kind of cheezy. A guitar with flashing lights? Would a serious musician be seen with something like that? IMHO they have a very high "Spinal Tap-factor". Besides, any reasonably bright stage light would outshine the tiny bulbs inside the guitar.
No wonder only five sold .
Now, after 30 years, of course they are cooler than cool.
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:34 am
by jps
Things can be a bit hazy regarding the '70s. According the James T. Kirk, it must have been the LDS!
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 8:38 pm
by firstbassman
It's my understanding that the bass was owned by the group collectively and kept in storage along with many other instruments when the band maintained an office in San Francisco. I was thinking it was Peter Sears that brought this to them.
Thanks John. And if that is the case, then Peter needs to correct this page:
http://rickresource.com/rrp/temptingbass.html
Because, it says Jack owned the bass.
BTW, Pete Sears never played with the Airplane. (Did with Starship as you mention.) But also did play keyboards with Jack and Hot Tuna in the 90s.
A live recording from that time in Japan:
http://www.amazon.com/Live-Japan-Stoves-Yokohoma-City/dp/B000005ZYH/sr=8-1/qid=1168756498/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-8822732-0549756?ie=UTF8&s=music
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 5:34 am
by jingle_jangle
Lars and other Forumites:
My uncle Florian Wilczynski
invented the lightshow, back in 1954.
It's true.
Flory was the guitar/pedal steel/banjo player for a Chicago polka band called "Joe Pat and His Orchestra". I remember watching the band play live on one of Chicago's polka TV shows about 1960 or so. He gigged with them 3-4 nights a week.
Flory's day job was as a QC engineer for Admiral Televisions in Chicago. He was quite the electronics guy.
He stuck a string of about a dozen of the old 7W Christmas tree lights inside his open-backed Kay banjo, and rigged them to flash with a foot switch. And, yes, that sucker got
HOT. It was a metal-rim banjo, too...
Nothing can compare with the sound and fury of Flory and his bunch when they launched into the long version of "Who Stole the Kishka". It was their own "Stairway to Heaven", about a sausage hanging on the curing rack being kidnapped. It could bring tears to the eyes of the toughest ward alderman.
I can see them now, on a stage whose details and lighting are dimmed by the years, Joe on his beautiful black Scandalli 120-bass accordion, frontman
par excellence, Huey the drummer way in back, holding court over his red sparkle set of Slingerlands, Charlie the bass player, the three brassmen whose names I've forgotten...
And over to Stage Right stood Uncle Flory, his banjo flashing in time to the frenetic beat of this tragic ode to Sausage Loss.
Talk about cheezy!
Joe Pat (Paterek) passed on a couple of decades ago, and Flory himself has joined Joe as members in good standing in the Chicago Chapter of the Pearly Gates Polka Federation.
Joe Pat's Orchestra continues to perform under the direction of Frank Gentile (an Italian!?!?!). They are best known for the Polka Mass they wrote and perform in honor of the late Pope John Paul II, who is revered by Chicago Polish Catholics:
NOTE: Every word of this post is the Gospel Truth.
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 5:42 am
by jnbass