Rickresource Rickenbacker Forum

egosheep wrote:When is Gibson going to reissue the 335/12??

Good question - that's a reissue that would be of great interest!

JakeK wrote:You lot should read the comments at Gibson's site. Praising this new SG 12, but bashing Ric...

The whole comment section's filled mainly with negative gibberish, if you ask me.

The SG-12's a limited run of less than 1000 - I doubt it will raise the amount of 12-string players by much
I also doubt we'll see the 335-12 re-issued anytime soon. As for Epiphone, it's not interested in 12-string electrics.

As for Gibson bashing Ric... anyone forget this article on the Gibson website?
http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/P ... eorge-413/

Wildberry wrote:The SG-12's a limited run of less than 1000 - I doubt it will raise the amount of 12-string players by much

Ha - good point! Well, 1000 more 12-string players is still a good thing.

Wildberry wrote:As for Gibson bashing Ric... anyone forget this article on the Gibson website?
http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/P ... eorge-413/

Nice article - very respectful of the Ric 12-string's impact on modern music.

stsang wrote:

IvanMunoz wrote:Thats really weird! At guitar center a couple years ago, I played a used epi LP and it picked up radio stations.

My Rick360/12 picks up radio stations too if I partially insert a TR cable into the mono jack on the guitar. Once the jack is in fully, the reception disappears. I haven't figured out yet how to tune to different stations.

It's funny how we have regulations about interference - Legally, you're not suppose to pick up radiostations through your guitar or amp, as far as I know. I can plug in a Dunlop Crybaby and pickup all kinds of radio AND TV signals...

But, I digress. While I agree that Gibson makes fine instruments (Not as consistent as Ric, sadly), I agree with one of the statements early: Mahogany is not great for 12 string guitar - I sometimes thing it's not great for six string guitar. Unless you're going to put a load of compression on this sucker, it's going to be pretty buried within the mix.

Wildberry wrote:

JakeK wrote:You lot should read the comments at Gibson's site. Praising this new SG 12, but bashing Ric...

The whole comment section's filled mainly with negative gibberish, if you ask me.

The SG-12's a limited run of less than 1000 - I doubt it will raise the amount of 12-string players by much
I also doubt we'll see the 335-12 re-issued anytime soon. As for Epiphone, it's not interested in 12-string electrics.

As for Gibson bashing Ric... anyone forget this article on the Gibson website?
http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/P ... eorge-413/

The comments on that article say he used a 330, I guess no one at gibson understands Old Style

Ain'tGotNoPokemon wrote:It's funny how we have regulations about interference - Legally, you're not suppose to pick up radiostations through your guitar or amp, as far as I know. I can plug in a Dunlop Crybaby and pickup all kinds of radio AND TV signals...

The restrictions you're speaking of are related to components that can generate interference, certainly not passive devices that can receive. Even metallic fillings in teeth can receive radio broadcasts sometimes, for goodness sake!

It's all a matter of proper shielding and grounding. Anything with additional gain, like a pedal, can exacerbate unwanted reception.

Wildberry wrote:

Clint wrote: "The strings are backward, wah, wah, wah", "

Actually, first time I had one in my hands at work I complained the SG-12 had the strings in the wrong order

JakeK wrote:You lot should read the comments at Gibson's site. Praising this new SG 12, but bashing Ric...

They're just jealous. . .

johnhall wrote:

Ain'tGotNoPokemon wrote:It's funny how we have regulations about interference - Legally, you're not suppose to pick up radiostations through your guitar or amp, as far as I know. I can plug in a Dunlop Crybaby and pickup all kinds of radio AND TV signals...

The restrictions you're speaking of are related to components that can generate interference, certainly not passive devices that can receive. Even metallic fillings in teeth can receive radio broadcasts sometimes, for goodness sake!

It's all a matter of proper shielding and grounding. Anything with additional gain, like a pedal, can exacerbate unwanted reception.

What Mr. Hall said-my guitar amps(Fender and Vox), and my fellow guitarist Jayme's(Mesa Boogie), have periodically picked up radio broadcasts. . . . or the vocals in the next studio. . . I think our bassist Dave's A.M.P. (seriously, that's its name) bass amp has as well. Never all at the same time, thank goodness.

paologregorio wrote:I think our bassist Dave's A.M.P. (seriously, that's its name) bass amp

Amplified Music Products; SWR (the man, pre the company) and Russ Allee (IIRC) did those after they were done with Acoustic Control Corporation. Those amps are highly thought of in the bass community, really. Notice it's similarity to a SWR Studio 220 preamp layout; Gibson did an amp for a while that was basically the same amp, most likely made by AMP and rebadged, essentially.

I used to pick up a radio station when I had my Marshall ValveState 65 watter. Sure didn't seem like 65 watts. I am a fan of any well made guitar. Currently I have 3 Fenders, 2 Gibsons, 1 Ric and 1 Martin. My only rule is I only buy American made axes.

95 - Black Fender American Standard Jazz
05 - Silver Fender American Series Strat with Eric Johnson Pickups
07 - Triburst Fender Highway One Tele with Custom Shop Texas Special Pickups
08 - Jerglo Ric 4003 with Sergio Silva pickups
00 - Fudgesicle Brown Martin D-15
57 - Viceroy Brown Burst Gibson ES-225TD
09 - Red Gibson BB King Signature

Hi Folks, I just got to try out the Gibson SG-12 for a few minutes. Sam Ash in Times Square NYC had one. It was plugged into a Fender Deluxe Reverb with "clean" settings. First of all the neck felt HUGE compared to the Ric 360/12 I'm now used to - much wider. Also, the action on the guitar was great. As you'd expect, the sound was indeed quite a bit "darker" than the Ric but has a nice "warmth" to the tone with some jangle and chime. Overall a much fuller tone. I didn't play with the amp settings (the store folks were looking to get rid of me ASAP), but I imagine this guitar would sound really nice with some overdrive. I'm sure with some amp tweaking and/or the right pedals you can get a more jangly sound out of it than what I heard. I can see this guitar working well for a large percentage of the playing population, especially with its wide neck.

BTW, I also saw a gorgeous Jetglo Ric 360/12c63 in Rudy's Music across the street that was more than twice the price of the SG-12 - but that's the one that got my heart racing and and had me thinking about raiding my piggy bank.

Gibson loves to needle the competition. They do it all the time in subtle ond not so subtle ways. One time, they sent out a mass video emailing of well known players like Richie Blackmore, Jimi, and Pete Townshend smashing Fender guitars. Last week, they interviewed Buddy Guy, a Fender endorsee, but the picture they used had Buddy playing his old white SG Custom from the 60's. Buddy told me the neck cracked and he had it fixed and gave it to a relative.

Gibson loves to skewer their rivals. I prefer to take it with a grain of salt. The Rick 12 string is the king of electric 12s, and there's nothing King Henry The Arrogant can do about it.

stsang wrote: BTW, I also saw a gorgeous Jetglo Ric 360/12c63 in Rudy's Music across the street that was more than twice the price of the SG-12 - but that's the one that got my heart racing and and had me thinking about raiding my piggy bank.

Ha! I looked at the very same guitar yesterday too! We probably passed each other entering and leaving the store.