73 4001

ojobob2 · Post by **ojobob2** » Sun Mar 14, 2004 5:58 am

Marc are you thinking or playing these old basses out, or just collecting?

wints · Post by **wints** » Sun Mar 14, 2004 6:32 am

Marc, I,ll try and get there next weekend although I can,t promise. I can,t see them moving it for anything close to that personally...The 73 had all the collectible features too. I think this one is still overpriced. But if your heart,s set on it...go for it...Buying an excellent condition bass at this price probably means it,s going to be well cared for with limited playing time. When you find an old one in such great shape it,s almost criminal not to preserve it as such while you are it,s custodian...

marc61 · Post by **marc61** » Sun Mar 14, 2004 6:59 am

That's my problem with Ric's. There just too nice looking to play. Yeah, If I buy the 72 it's to fiddle with and care for.

What I'd really love is to find a 4000 and put a real horseshoe pickup in that thing, and then do the unthinkable - refin it olympic white and have a tortoise shell pickguard made.

That bass I'd play the **** out of.

jps · Post by **jps** » Sun Mar 14, 2004 7:11 am

I play out with my '73 4001, in fact I just played a benefit gig Friday night with it. Once in a while I also gig with my '67 4005WB.

markbass99 · Post by **markbass99** » Sun Mar 14, 2004 4:09 pm

I'm the one you all are referring to that bought the 73 burglo (MD XXXX) on ebay last month for $1799. Sorry, I've been lurking here for the past year, and I think you're right about this forum causing prices to rise. I had a 73 checkered jetglo 24 years ago that got away, and have had bad forum induced gas since I started coming here.
When that 73 hit ebay last month, I hit the buy it now button so hard I thought I broke my keyboard.Man this bass has that strike a piano wire with a sledge hammer sound that my 02' 4003 jetglo cannot deliver. Compare this bass to a $4000 Chris Squire, its got checkered binding, full MOP inlays, skunk stripe (visible through finish, wavy grovers, and classic .0047 sound.
Oh, and its almost 20 years older. I think you will agree (in that context) its a tremendous value.

paul_yan · Post by **paul_yan** » Sun Mar 14, 2004 4:30 pm

Totally agreed.

Welcome aboard, Mark.

cheyenne · Post by **cheyenne** » Sun Mar 14, 2004 4:40 pm

I dont think we're intentionally causing the market to move on Rickenbacker products. Its quite simply due to the fact that Rickenbacker produces a superior product made it the USA,and in todays mass produced society thats hard to find...... And all we here at the forum due is offer a no-******** banter about our collective knowledge...... Please excuse my language Peter.

wints · Post by **wints** » Sun Mar 14, 2004 4:52 pm

Mark..welcome, and a very nice bass you,ve got there. I watched that one go to about $1200 and thought about it...the next time I looked you had bought it...I also agree that compared to a CS tremendous value, and probably a better playing instrument than the CS, neck profile wise. I,m not too sure this forum is the main reason prices have been rising. You can only talk a product up so much, but the market for Ric basses is very hot at present. Finding yourself a cool piece as perceived by most, (this means yours!!) will offer you a great playing bass and hopefully a sound financial one too...

marc61 · Post by **marc61** » Sun Mar 14, 2004 5:13 pm

Scott, there's something to be said for your statement. Basically Rickenbacker makes a premium quality instrument at a professional price.

As far as the vintage stuff, there's just nothing there. Every major dealer has several 60's p and jazz basees but only a few have even one Rickenbacker bass from the 60's.

The forum just brings up the thirst, which seemingly goes unquenched.

ken_james · Post by **ken_james** » Sun Mar 14, 2004 5:49 pm

Good point Marc, I don't remember the last time a 60's era 4001 appeared in a store, you just don't see them anymore. As for the thirst, how many lurkers do we have out there waiting to get their hands on a Ric?

marc61 · Post by **marc61** » Sun Mar 14, 2004 6:12 pm

I'll post some links:
http://www.gbase.com/gearlist/guitar_picture.asp?guitar=526141

http://www.gbase.com/gearlist/guitar_picture.asp?guitar=507492

http://www.chicagomusicexchange.com/

Chicago Music Exchange just added two 4005's to their linup in addition to a nice 69 4001.

That's all I can find. I'm sure Rickenbacker made basses in the 50's. I've seen pictures. Michael Anthony has that 57 model 4000 that most of us have probably seen but, I've never seen a 50's Ric Bass for sale.

If you wanted me to post all the 50's and 60's p and Jazz basses for sale, there wouldn't be enough room in the post.

jmh · Post by **jmh** » Sun Mar 14, 2004 6:37 pm

Markbass99 said:
-Man this bass has that strike a piano wire with a sledge hammer sound that my 02' 4003 jetglo cannot deliver-

Is it all in the pickups? What strings to you use?

markbass99 · Post by **markbass99** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 1:51 am

Jack- round wound strings and the blending of the .0047 capped bridge p/u with the toaster is what produces this sound. A/B'ing this 4001 against a modern 4003 really shows the difference.
Some people will buy a Chris Squire bass thinking they are going to get that sound, but are disappointed when it doesn't happen. As soon as I plugged the 73 into my B100R/sansamp RBI combo I thought Chris was in the room. Using a pick also gives you the sledgehammer effect.

jmh · Post by **jmh** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 5:30 am

I wonder if I can try using my ROS to approximate that sound. My '02 4003 has a factory toaster, and I can try cutting the mids and lows manually on my mixer for the bridge hi gain. I've got Fodera light gauge rounds on her now (that to me have a nice Rotosound type twang). Worth a shot.

marc61 · Post by **marc61** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 5:15 pm

Geez, I'm lucky I didn't wait for the end of this auction. What'd the guy want for this thing?Doesn't answer e-mails. The whole auction stinks.

To remind you of what I'm talking about:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3710819849&category=4713&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWA%3AIT&rd=1