IS THIS A RICKENFAKER?

tim4003 · Post by **tim4003** » Wed May 29, 2002 2:55 pm

I saw this on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...&item=878401828 Check out the jack plate. It says STEREO-SOUND, not RICK-O-SOUND. Your opinion?

tim4003 · Post by **tim4003** » Wed May 29, 2002 3:07 pm

Sorry, this is the correct site. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=878401828

admin · Post by **admin** » Wed May 29, 2002 3:54 pm

I has my vote for a Rickenfaker. Anyone else.

gpatt5762 · Post by **gpatt5762** » Wed May 29, 2002 4:18 pm

Rickenhacker, maybe, but it's the genuine article underneath the third party pickguard, fingerrest, and switched out nameplate, plus homemade jackplate.

As we all know, the telling factor of all telling factors lies under the nameplate.

I say it's a Rick with poorly thought out mods.

Garry

rickenbrother · Post by **rickenbrother** » Wed May 29, 2002 6:50 pm

Gary said: I say it's a Rick with poorly thought out mods.

Very possible, but I wouldn't bid on it, not being able to look inside it first.

dave_axt · Post by **dave_axt** » Thu May 30, 2002 1:03 am

It's either a Univox, Ibanez or Electra copy. At the price of the last bid you can buy a real one!

rickcrazy · Post by **rickcrazy** » Thu May 30, 2002 4:11 am

Hello, everybody. I'm new to the Forum, and let me start by saying that Ebay item 878401828 is clearly a Rick copy. The binding pattern, the shape of the tailpiece string holes (look closely), the tuners, the jackplate and a few further details just aren't there for Rickenbacker connoisseurs to make a mistake over. I've seen a few Rick copies in my time (mainly by Cimar and Nagoya). Having said that, it's a beautiful copy. Thanks for reading.

markthemd · Post by **markthemd** » Thu May 30, 2002 4:51 am

I think this is a resppray , refret , with a jackplate that got changed out long ago before the XX OOOO number exchange plates were issued.

The real test is ...truss rod cavity and control cavity .NOBODY routes a bass like an old Rick .

admin · Post by **admin** » Thu May 30, 2002 5:21 am

Mark: Riddle me this? What would the motivation be for someone to take a stock Rickenbacker Bass and replace it with keywinds such as this, an obvious fake jackplate and such a poor fretmarker job. Truss rod and control cavities aside, don't you think that the balance of probabilities would have this instrument as a fake from the beginning.

admin · Post by **admin** » Thu May 30, 2002 5:25 am

markthemd · Post by **markthemd** » Thu May 30, 2002 8:19 am

I have never seen a checked binding fake , anyone seen one?

The grain /sanding lines in the sunburst are signs of a refinish or a really lame spray job.

These are the two problems I have .

Yes they are fake Grovers .... but if they were removed , would you see another set of holes .

Inlays ...the early 1970's had lots of variations on inlays , in size and color and material .This was a time of experimenting to replace the crushed material.

rhinobass · Post by **rhinobass** » Thu May 30, 2002 9:45 am

At the time I checked this thread, @ 4:00 EST on 5/30, it has been removed from E-Bay as an "invalid Item".

surfrat · Post by **surfrat** » Thu May 30, 2002 1:18 pm

This bass was suspiciously similar in terms of finish colors to an Ibanez -» Rick copy that was on ebay a few weeks ago. I emailed the seller about the number of truss rods, but he replied that the bass was no longer for sale. He did end the auction, but for this to now show up as an "invalid item" this would have had to be done by Rickenbacker to prevent any 'after the fact' transactions. So I think it's safe to say that the folks at Rickenbacker were right on top of this one and it was a fake.

rick12dr · Post by **rick12dr** » Thu May 30, 2002 3:12 pm

Mark; Yes; I remember seeing checked binding fake 4001 basses in the early 70s.

rickenbrother · Post by **rickenbrother** » Fri May 31, 2002 1:48 pm

I have also seen Ric copies with checkered binding in the early 70's

The tuners on that Rickenfaker on ebay were poorly installed, they were not straight and aligned.