Does black paint and lacquer a Jetglo make?
hmm, ok this is nit-picky acedemics but interesting to me. I have a '75 4001 and a '90 4003... both "Jetglo".. I love the lacquered look and feel of the 4003..(which I think plays better by the way) but aren't the "-------glo" colours truly of a by-gone era since the lacquering gives a different look and feel? I am glad though that the name did not change. I wonder if there was any discussion at RIC about the change to lacquered guitars and the "--glo naming history"?
Blacquerglo?..... Jetshine?
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I have no idea what you are inplying , other than each era of finish is different materials?
john Hall said that the current finish material is a "Conversion Varnish" ....well the "Fuller plast " that I sprayed in the early 1970's was also a conversion varnish .
They are just a different formula , and diferent VOC content amoung other things .
John once told me that Nitro lacquers had not been used by Rick since the early days of FC Hall owned Rickenbacker .
So there really hasn't been ANY lacquer since that time .
Lacquer , is a catch all phase used by peole that assume that guitars are all finished in lacquer , even the word varnish is used when it is NOT varnish .
By the way ...Conversion varnish is not the Varnnish found in a paint store or a Home Depot type store .It is totally different .
As diffferent as Nitro Celulouse lacquer, catylized lacquer and acrylic lacquer .
The "glo" thing is ....just a trademark type of thing .
john Hall said that the current finish material is a "Conversion Varnish" ....well the "Fuller plast " that I sprayed in the early 1970's was also a conversion varnish .
They are just a different formula , and diferent VOC content amoung other things .
John once told me that Nitro lacquers had not been used by Rick since the early days of FC Hall owned Rickenbacker .
So there really hasn't been ANY lacquer since that time .
Lacquer , is a catch all phase used by peole that assume that guitars are all finished in lacquer , even the word varnish is used when it is NOT varnish .
By the way ...Conversion varnish is not the Varnnish found in a paint store or a Home Depot type store .It is totally different .
As diffferent as Nitro Celulouse lacquer, catylized lacquer and acrylic lacquer .
The "glo" thing is ....just a trademark type of thing .
So you too want yours "ALAPWOB"?!?!
my '90 4003 finish is a highly reflective slick clear layer over the black. Along the bottom of the bass there is a slight spiderweb crack in that clear layer... like the previous owner banged it against something. My 4001 doesn't do that..it HAS been very used and banged around a bit over the years.. I've worn some of the black off the neck from playing it... however the finish seems to be the black paint with a very slight coating over that which does not spiderweb crack. It is completely different from the 4003.
Is this not the case with others? If not..it's possible the 4003 was re-finished before I got it. Actually the 4003 finish surprised me when it came in the mail (from a reputable online dealer) because it was so different.. I figured it would have the same look as the older one. Also, it's not that the '75 has more age.. it's a different..thinner final coating on the 4001. My point was (believing mine to be factory finished) that there was a significant change but the same name continues which I find interesting (and good) but it raises the question at least for me.. what does jetglo mean then?... since it can mean at least two very different things ..not a special recipe, tint or process as I thought? Perhaps it only means that it was painted at the factory. Can a restored Rick then have a "--glo" finish? And now.. for me.. Do 1990 4003's fit my bass's description.. thicker..glassy.. mirror-like crackable outer coating?
Is this not the case with others? If not..it's possible the 4003 was re-finished before I got it. Actually the 4003 finish surprised me when it came in the mail (from a reputable online dealer) because it was so different.. I figured it would have the same look as the older one. Also, it's not that the '75 has more age.. it's a different..thinner final coating on the 4001. My point was (believing mine to be factory finished) that there was a significant change but the same name continues which I find interesting (and good) but it raises the question at least for me.. what does jetglo mean then?... since it can mean at least two very different things ..not a special recipe, tint or process as I thought? Perhaps it only means that it was painted at the factory. Can a restored Rick then have a "--glo" finish? And now.. for me.. Do 1990 4003's fit my bass's description.. thicker..glassy.. mirror-like crackable outer coating?
Joel: The type of finish has changed over the years for a number of reasons, the most significant being the move to more environmentally friendly substances. The finish on my Fireglo 450/12 from 1966 is quite different from my Mapleglo 350 from 1993, along the same lines that you have described. This would make a most interesting article.
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Another question that comes to mind is What if you needed to have an older Rick such as your '66 refinished for some reason. Wouldn't the current materials and (more importantly) thicker application of that coating create a different guitar ...with an updated look, feel and maybe even sound in the case of the hollow bodies?