450/12 Kluson question

milo · Post by **milo** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 10:57 am

I picked up this old 450/12 and it's had a set of the Klusons replaced with a newer set. The problem is that the shaft of the tuners extend too deep into the headstock on the high side and it makes it very difficult to string. The body of the tuner is also thicker than the originals and the buttons on the standard set contact the body of the additional tuners in a couple of places. It's useable as is but does anyone have an idea on which model of a replacement tuner would work for a replacement in the near future? The newer set may be slotted instead of having holes in the peg but I don't know if that would affect the body size. Hopefully my pictures will upload.

milo · Post by **milo** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:00 am

Oops!

xcoyle · Post by **xcoyle** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:32 pm

Use Gotoh vintage tuners. The new Klusons are garbage. Old Klusons were made here in Chicago, but the name was sold. They are now made by a new company (European, I believe) and they are not the same size as old Klusons. Most of the guitar companies use Gotoh on there reissues.

Stew-Mac sells them cheap, here a link:

http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tuners/Guitar,_solid_peghead/Gotoh_Vintage-style_Oval_Knob_Tuners.html

dale_fortune · Post by **dale_fortune** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:06 pm

Allparts.com is even a better deal. Same tuner better price.

xcoyle · Post by **xcoyle** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:36 am

Dale, Stew has them for $33 and ($26 for three sets), Allparts is showing $45.

milo · Post by **milo** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:36 am

Thanks guys,
I checked the Elderly website for them and they're $28 so the extra $5 will cover shipping.

dale_fortune · Post by **dale_fortune** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:00 pm

I buy them wholesale for 1/2 that price, sorry for the confussion.

xcoyle · Post by **xcoyle** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 4:45 am

Dale, I figured you got the "guitar master" discount, which is well deserved.

ken_j · Post by **ken_j** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 5:18 am

My local guitar shop sells Allparts. He discounts them about 40% and there is no shipping. You may just find them local. Although for about $10 in gas I can drive round trip to Elderly and have fun time while I'm there. Well worth the extra $5.

milo · Post by **milo** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:41 pm

I'm about $20 away from Elderly so it makes it a tough decision when I can have them shipped. It all depends on how long it's been since I was there

ken_j · Post by **ken_j** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:12 pm

Jeff,
We are not that far apart I'm in the Union Lake area. You should give Motor City Guitar (Waterford) a call and see how much they will get them for.