1973, The Transition Year

bassman · Post by **bassman** » Mon Nov 20, 2000 8:49 am

Here's a question for Mark and Don that I believe you both can give us some insite on, seeing that you both worked at the factory in this year (I think). I'm sure David can also provide some answers also, so here goes.
Can you tell us when the transition of the 4001 took place, and what how the factory went about it in 1973.
I'm refering to the factory replacing the remaining 60's features on the 4001 (ie, removal of the checkered binding, toaster p/u, chushed pearl inlay neck position markers, etc).
I've seen a few 73 4001's with the 60's features but i've seen more 1973 4001's with the modern look of the mid 70's to early 80's.
To the best of your knowledge, was there a specific month when the transition took place in 1973, or was it slow and gradual over the entire year?
Any insites and stories that come to mind that you'd like to share with us are always greatly appreciated (and enjoyed).
Cheers

GregShadoan · Post by **GregShadoan** » Tue Nov 21, 2000 5:44 pm

I have a 73, with block binding, Hi-gain pickups, and the newer triangle "shark teeth" inlays. I have seen another 73 without block binding, with a toaster and the notched tail peice. What gives? Was this a hodge podge year?

markthemd · Post by **markthemd** » Tue Nov 21, 2000 7:13 pm

Yes definately

There was a need to change some things as the inlay material became unavailable,
the bridge base /plate was a sand casting that was prone to caving in and cracking,
the bridge was sagging and the saddles would wobble to and fro,
the neck pickup was not standard to the guitars and the high gain was soon to be in everything.This was the button top not the screw shaft version that was found in the guitars.That was found to have a limited apeal with players as when you dent a string slightly (whether you meant to or not) the volume would drop out.That did not cut it ,so the button top appeared .That did work.
Also the original supplier of the checker binding closed it's doors and left Rick high and dry in regards to the binding.
This did not all happen at once ,yet to collectors and fans of the bass ,it would seem that there was a plot.

NO WAY ,it was just one of those things .Not unlike the Fender of 1972-3 bolt plate ,flat polepieces,Big headstock with big logo,Schaller 'F' tuners,solid zinc cast bridges on Strats,etc.

Funny how 1972/1973 was that way...could it be..............Satan???????

Mike_Andrews · Post by **Mike_Andrews** » Wed May 30, 2001 3:09 pm

I own a Nov.1973 4001 bass.My baby kicks butt. Sometimes it talks.Had this bass over half my life and its magic.

rick12dr · Post by **rick12dr** » Wed May 30, 2001 6:36 pm

Funny how 1972/1973 was that way...could it be
..............Satan??????? I have another theory:
one word; 'Columbian".First debuted in mid '72.
Fact or fiction, You decide.

markthemd · Post by **markthemd** » Thu May 31, 2001 8:39 am

1972 /1973 wasn't that the year of the bong and the gas mask with a fish pump?

Glad I don't do that any more!

Many things changed in this time frame .Suppiers changed and the idea of making a similar pickup that was less labor intensive to make came about .

Maui Wowie I do remember ...more from the Cheech and Chong movies however.

leftybass · Post by **leftybass** » Thu May 31, 2001 9:28 am

Mark, since we're back on this, do you know exactly why they don't do crushed pearl inlay anymore?? Is it really that hard to find a vendor for the material..? It would have just seemed to be a more prudent thing to do, especially on guitars such as the 370/12RM, Carl Wilson and John Kay models (I know I'm talking about the past and its already done) but maybe for future use they could look into the possibility of doing crushed pearl again...it just looks cool.

rick12dr · Post by **rick12dr** » Thu May 31, 2001 11:36 am

Regarding the crushed pearl; it is simply Not around. John Hall has been chasing possible vendors on this, but last I heard,still no luck.If and when it's found, we will see it.

leftybass · Post by **leftybass** » Fri Jun 01, 2001 4:19 am

Thanks, Dr.!

admin · Post by **admin** » Fri Jun 01, 2001 5:38 am

You have to believe that he may need to go to Hawaii on this one Don.

rick12dr · Post by **rick12dr** » Fri Jun 01, 2001 1:20 pm

Peter,
That's funny you mention that; A few years ago, I was refretting a guys 4001 bass, which had the old crushed pearl inlays, and after carefully
removing the frets, and even more carefully planing the fingerboard to get the finish off and level the board, the ends of the inlays were getting pretty thin[you could almost see the wood underneath].I got to thinking, what if I could find what looked like appropriate seashell material, and smash it up,and put it in acrylic resin suspension, and have some replacement crushed pearl for just such an occasion.So on a couple trips to Hawaii, I found what looked like the right shells[they were really cheap]and came home and proceeded to see what I came up with.To make a longer story short,the end results were disappointing.I could not achieve proper shell "flake" size and consistency, which meant I could not get enough flake density per square inch to look right. I think I spent around $40
to do the experiment.Who knows; had I not tried this, I'd never know if you could do it or not.
So there you have one guys struggle documented.

jnbass · Post by **jnbass** » Fri Jun 01, 2001 4:33 pm

Peter-we don't have much pearl left here in Hawaii-unless you're talking about the movie...

admin · Post by **admin** » Fri Jun 01, 2001 4:37 pm

jnbass: Thanks I had heard that but couldn't resist the comment knowing that Don had a Hawaii connection. Thanks for setting the record straight though.

rick12dr · Post by **rick12dr** » Fri Jun 01, 2001 6:05 pm

I don't think the shells I got were from Hawaii.
They were in gift shops as decorative items or accents.I paid as little as $1.50 each for them, and bought maybe 20 or so to smash into little fragments.

heinpete · Post by **heinpete** » Thu Jun 07, 2001 10:32 pm

Hi Dr.,

try the so called POA shell (blueish)mixed with the ordinary river mussle shell after you have polished off the black back from the latter.The grinded pieces should not be bigger than 1mm.

To mix this try to use white acrylic resin that you can get for enbedding insects (as pendants!! crazy, but common). Ad more hardener (2x) for preparing the mixture, but hurry when filling the inlays.