Rerelease of "LET IT BE" w/o Phil Spector

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It will be great to hear these Let It Be tracks without the "wall of sound." Ringo's comments are encouraging. From the Rolloing Stone Quote:"It's the de-Spectorized version," says Ringo Starr. "Same tracks, same people. I was listening to it recently, and it was really great. I've been away from it a long time too. It fills my heart with joy to hear that band that I was a member of. They were just great. And also, the quietness of the tracks: It's a beautiful CD."
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At least in one instance, we will be hearing less of "Legendary Rock & Roll Producer Phil Spector (TM all rights reserved)".
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I always liked that album and never minded his production but I am very interested to hear what it sounds like without it. Who produced this version, George Martin?
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I think this will be MacCartney's production
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Actually it's the George Martin produced and Glyn Johns engineered version, although they're dropping "Dig It" and "Maggie May" for unknown reasons. If Apple were really using their God given gray matter they'd issue this thing out in a boxed version including a reissue of the original Get Back book that came with the boxed versions that came out in 1970. Ethan Russell's photos were simply stunning!!! But once again, Apple's lack of insight.
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I agree Jeff. There could be so much more done to and for this re-issue. Instead of deleting tracks from the album, APPLE should be adding to it. And more than just the added 20 minute bonus disc. There are hundreds of hours.
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I won't miss dig it or maggie mae
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Certainly not the classics, but definitely nice little ditties... I think they belong. They are part of the Beatles' character - They shouldn't take them away!

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Anything without Phil Spector is good news. I never could stand any of his production and never could understand why anyone would seek him out.
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My guess is John, having an affection for the American "Girl Groups" of the early '60's (many produced by Spector) was the one who sought him out.

BTW, Police now say Spector fired the gun that killed the woman in his home, it was not self inflicted as Spector had claimed.
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Here is a recent review of the "new" Let It Be from The Observer.
Sunday October 19, 2003
The Observer

We'll begin with a nauseating name-drop. I first heard official word about Let it Be... Naked back in February, when I was interviewing Ringo Starr ina South Kensington restaurant. He was making his way through a dressing-free salad, sipping mineral water and attempting to promote a solo album entitled Ringo Rama; I, of course, was set on gently nudging the conversation
towards The Beatles. With commendable grace, he soon resigned himself to the inevitable: we talked about the DVD release of the Anthology series, and then he tipped me the wink about his and Paul McCartney's next enterprise:
the release of a new version of the Beatles album that was salvaged from miles of abandoned tape by Phil Spector and released as their last(ish) word
in May 1970. 'It's the de-Spectorised version,' said Ringo. 'Cleaned up a little. Same
tracks, same people.' He emitted a confident, though slightly forced laugh. 'I've been listening to it, and it's really great. It fills my heart withjoy to hear that band that I was a member of. They were just great.'

At this point, I think I nodded vigorously, keen to make it clear that I too thought The Beatles were quite a tidy act. 'Paul was always totally opposed to Phil,' he went on, 'and I told him on the phone, "You're bloody right again: it sounds great without Phil." Which it does. Now we'll have to put up with him telling us over and over again, "I told you."' It was at this point that I decided to bring up Spector's syrupy treatment
of 'The Long and Winding Road' - which caused McCartney no end of annoyance - and remind Ringo that one of the alleged reasons he had so smothered the song was to cover up the fact that John Lennon's bass part was a plunky, out-of-tune disgrace. Ringo put his cheery bonhomie on temporary hold and looked rather irritated. 'Well, people say a lot of things,' he
said. 'And even playing out of tune, he played better than most.'

This is not strictly true. If you go back to Spector's arrangement, which grafts strings, horns and a choir on to what sounds like a demo, you hear Lennon indulging in something close to musical sabotage. How could stripping it all back do anything other than blow the gaff? Moreover, wasn't this the ultimate Paul McCartney vanity project - thumbs-aloft's belated attempt to
pull off what his colleagues had long denied him? That lunchtime, however,was not the best setting for such harumphing. The other week, I went to Abbey Road to hear what had been done to Let it Be
.. The idea that McCartney had neurotically piloted the new version from start to finish was rather scotched by my introduction to Allan Rouse, one of three studio employees who had been handed 32 reels of tape, told to come up with a new album and then left to get on with it. Much to their amazement, when he heard the final version, McCartney requested no changes
whatsoever.

The running order is completely different: among other changes, this album begins with the original Let it Be's closing track, 'Get Back', and ends with the title song, which used to be track six. There is none of the dialogue that peppered the original, and a version of Lennon's *****-up Yoko tribute 'Don't Let Me Down' has been included, thus righting the wrong whereby it was relegated to the B-side of 'Get Back'. Two songs have been placed in the wastebasket: there is no 'Maggie Mae', nor Lennon's pretty rubbishy 'Dig It'. What remains is a 35-minute, 11-track album that a)sounds like a coherent work rather than a patched-up postscript, and b)
stays true to McCartney's original idea of abandoning the studio alchemy that had so defined the psychedelic Beatles and re-emphasising the fact that they were a four-piece rock group (often augmented here by Billy Preston on
keyboards).

By way of hammering the point home, everything has been remixed and remastered, so that the music is wrapped in both a new brightness and an
added sense of intimacy. You find yourself charmed by songs that hitherto had sounded like mere makeweights. 'One after 909', written soon after John met Paul in 1957 and revived as something of a band in-joke, does not exactly represent The Beatles' greatest work, but it manages to ooze the sense of the band tapping back into the rambunctious teenage spirit of The
Quarrymen. Similarly, Harrison's 'For You Blue' might be a flimsy 12-bar,but here you hear it anew, as an endearingly cute stab at the bucolic
simplicity that Harrison's idol Bob Dylan had minted during the time he spent secluded in Woodstock.

Most striking of all is a new mix of 'Across the Universe', put to tape in early 1968 and included on Let it Be on account of a brief rendition in the accompanying film. The new treatment features only Lennon's voice and guitar, a smattering of tamboura from Harrison, and Starr gingerly keeping
time on a bass drum. This minimalism suddenly places it in rarefied territory indeed; here, it sounds like a stargazing companion to 'Julia',
Lennon's heart-stopping acoustic piece from The Beatles . As for the chief source of McCartney's three-decade heartache, Rouse and co. went for the
hitherto unreleased version of 'The Long and Winding Road' used in the Let it Be movie. On the whole, Lennon's dreaded bass-playing is eerily
on-the-money. Better still, the jettisoning of the schmaltz results in the squashing of the song's old air of piety; instead, it sounds like McCartney trying to soothe the anxiety that came from the keen sense that his group's bond was becoming irrevocably frayed. The upshot of all this is clear enough. Even with George Harrison rapidly turning into a seething ball of anti-McCartney resentment, John Lennon momentarily lost to heroin, Yoko Ono sitting threateningly next to him and a film crew recording their every argument and belch, The Beatles were brilliant. Oh, and one other thought: this is the last thing Phil Spector needs, eh?
Of course I will buy this.
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I too always thought that the bass on Let it Be was kind of sloppy, stiff and out of time like an amateur had done it (I thought maybe it was a scratch bass part Mac had played as a demo and they had been too distracted to put the real one in), but then again many times a songs weak points are also their strong points for me, (look at the out of tune parts and bad timing on many of Dylans' masterpieces) and I would not ever want to hear that song without that bass line Lennon played.
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Oh yeah,I forgot; that was a great review, I can't wait to get it. That was always one of my favorite Beatle albums, maybe because I bought it years after it was released because of the negativity and bad reviews surrounding it. When I finally bought it I thought the songs were great, very diverse and great.
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