Rip Off auctions

ealdrett · Post by **ealdrett** » Fri May 12, 2006 7:02 am

Well, I noticed that a lot of auctions on the Bay tend to have pictures from other auctions. Mainly, people leeching other auctions for pictures and descriptions.
My friend's friend found a solution for that.
Check out this auction and read on. Check out the pictures.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7413615875
Better hurry before the seller finds out.

sowhat · Post by **sowhat** » Fri May 12, 2006 7:09 am

Hmmm... interesting. Just like to hope nobody would try to use it against trustworthy sellers...

leesh · Post by **leesh** » Fri May 12, 2006 7:09 am

That just made my day.

winston · Post by **winston** » Fri May 12, 2006 7:26 am

Ha ha ha ha ha. That's great. Someone bid on it too.

sowhat · Post by **sowhat** » Fri May 12, 2006 7:59 am

Note that the seller's last deal (b4 this one) is dated Aug-30-04 - the ID could be "stolen", too.

shamustwin · Post by **shamustwin** » Fri May 12, 2006 8:13 am

Too funny!

ozover50 · Post by **ozover50** » Fri May 12, 2006 11:57 pm

That is brilliant! Hysterical, in fact.... and very well put together.

Hope he stands for President or PM or something..... he's got my vote!!

loendmaestro · Post by **loendmaestro** » Sat May 13, 2006 4:08 am

Nice!

mgauction · Post by **mgauction** » Sat May 13, 2006 6:02 am

All this is going to change soon. A proper auction house WILL step in and take over this business in a serious way which will eliminate the phoney dealers and renege buyers. Sorry, ebay is not the way. Certainly meant to be user-dealer-buyer friendly but is frothed with negative circumstances in all catagories.

fran4001 · Post by **fran4001** » Sat May 13, 2006 6:14 am

Excellent! What a laugh, but it is sad what Ebay has become.

ealdrett · Post by **ealdrett** » Sat May 13, 2006 6:46 am

I'm glad I'm not alone in this thinking. I've been using eBay back in the day of the Pez dispensers and it's sad to see how bad it's gotten. From shill bidding, to fake auctions. It's seems to be in recent years that this issue has been arising. Might be the fact that net access as finally reached the remote areas where these cons tend to inhabit.
I listed my 4003 Blueburst on craig's list and I'm still getting emails from scammers even though it's been removed and long since sold.
It's bad enough to not trust people in an immediate local scale but now it's gotten to be in global scale.

mgauction · Post by **mgauction** » Sat May 13, 2006 7:04 am

Great words, Edgar! Same has happened to me in all instances you mentioned. The worse offenders get sellers email addresses from the Vintage Guitar Magazine site and pummel them with buy offers, me included. An upgraded new system needs to be indoctorated. I do not believe ebay will change much. They are making toooo much money. As far as instruments are concerned -- a highly respected auction house will will/can take a huge bite out of ebay and I believe it will be a positive thing.

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Sat May 13, 2006 8:44 am

"Highly respected" auction house?

Let's not go there. There is no honesty in auctions, and the higher up the auction house is on the food chain, the more cockeyed the business.

Auction houses are rife with corruption, money laundering, inside dealing, and just about any scam you can think of. I have had personal dealings with one which left my head spinning and led me to do a bit of investigating, and what I found turned me off to ever dealing with them...

Twenty years ago, I saw the antique car auction business from the "inside", too and the only winners there are the high-dollar dealers.

Thomas Jefferson and his idea of the innate goodness of mankind are taking a major hit these days, and one if its most visible challenges comes from good old eBay. Even supposedly good guy dealers and sellers find ways to bend the rules so they stack the deck in their favor.

"Caveat emptor" was coined in the years BC, so the idea of thievery ain't exactly new...

kenposurf · Post by **kenposurf** » Sun May 14, 2006 6:05 am

Right on Paul...As you know I'm on ebay ALL THE TIME and there are no shortage of sharks in the water there (like everywhere else money and goods are bartered) also lots of good folks too...I get more scam emails when I list a guitar on the Fender Forum then on ebay. Most of these rip off jerks on ebay are so obvious it's a joke,