Modifying double line klusons

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collin
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Modifying double line klusons

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Is it possible to convert double-line Kluson tuners with white plastic buttons to metal buttons?

I have no idea how they are attached. I can't seem to find a good source for double line Klusons that aren't hundreds of dollars per set, and I need two sets of vintage klusons for a vintage 12 string..
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Collin, the few times I've done this, I've actually disassembled the tuners and swapped the entire worm gear button and shaft into the other casing, to make up a matching set from oddball pieces. I know the plastic buttons remove easily by heating the shaft with a soldering iron, but I believe the shaft tangs must then be filed down a tad in order to press-fit the metal buttons.

Question: Where you gonna get the metal buttons? I wonder if the newer metal button and worm shaft assemblies will fit the older cases? Hmmm...they look the same...
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jingle_jangle wrote: Question: Where you gonna get the metal buttons? I wonder if the newer metal button and worm shaft assemblies will fit the older cases? Hmmm...they look the same...
Yeah, that is a very good point. I would need to already have two sets of metal buttons, which I don't.

I guess I'll have to keep hunting :wink:

I could easily replace with new Ric Deluxes but being a vintage guitar, part of me wants to search for original vintage items (equally worn patina to the guitar is cool too..)
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Well, Klusons with metal buttons of more recent vintage turn up pretty cheap now and then, and you can maybe swap 'em into the old cases. Takes a bit of care to carefully bend the tabs without breaking them, but it's worth the trouble and you get a chance to clean and lube 'em while you're at it.
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If it helps, here are some aged sets for $70 each: http://www.rsguitarworks.net/rsstore/pr ... cts_id=355

Or new: http://www.rsguitarworks.net/rsstore/pr ... cts_id=488

EDIT: D'oh! 6-in-line only.
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dpowell wrote:If it helps, here are some aged sets for $70 each: http://www.rsguitarworks.net/rsstore/pr ... cts_id=355

Or new: http://www.rsguitarworks.net/rsstore/pr ... cts_id=488

EDIT: D'oh! 6-in-line only.
But still a good source, as these can be taken apart and the keys flipped in about 5 minutes each, with simple hand tools.
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