Lennon Caption on Sullivan?

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In the Wikipedia article on the film “That Thing You Do” it mentions that the on-screen caption warning female watchers that one of the characters was engaged is based on a similar action taken during the Beatles appearance on Ed Sullivan.

Does anyone have any proof that an on-screen caption said John was married? Which song did it occur in? I have not seen it on any of the YouTube clips I’ve seen.

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Mark, they were singing Til There Was You. They CG'd each band members name (if you call it that back in '64). When they got to John it included the caption, 'Sorry girls. He's married'. I have it on the DVD, the Beatles, the First U.S. Visit
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Look at about 3:44 in the vid below:


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Evidently, they didb't realize that Ringo was also married.
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beatlefreak wrote:Evidently, they didb't realize that Ringo was also married.
He only got married in 1965.
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tennis_nick wrote:
beatlefreak wrote:Evidently, they didb't realize that Ringo was also married.
He only got married in 1965.

Almost one year to the date later, Feb 11th, 1965.
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firstbassman wrote:In the Wikipedia article on the film “That Thing You Do” it mentions that the on-screen caption warning female watchers that one of the characters was engaged is based on a similar action taken during the Beatles appearance on Ed Sullivan.

Does anyone have any proof that an on-screen caption said John was married? Which song did it occur in? I have not seen it on any of the YouTube clips I’ve seen.

Thanks.
Actually, it's from this, skip to 1:25...

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Cynthia and John were married on August 23, 1962 at the Mount Pleasant Registry Office in Liverpool, and Julian was born on April 8, 1963..... so at the time of the first Sullivan show, John was VERY married indeed.
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Apologies in advance for the off-route vector, but what guitar is "John" playing in that Rutles clip? Is that an LP Double Cut?

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Thanks guys!

I don't know how I missed that on YouTube.
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buzfluhart wrote:Mark, they were singing Til There Was You. They CG'd each band members name (if you call it that back in '64).

No, there definitely was no Computer Graphics then.

I don’t even know if there were character generators yet. There might have been, I just don’t know. (Those did appear by the late 60s/early 70s.)

If not, then they used a device that looked sort of like a small semi-enclosed Ferris wheel drum. The drum was about two feet in diameter and could hold about eight or more “cards” with a TV camera lens point at one held spot. A combination of the scene on stage and with the drum holding a “Paul” in white characters would show up together on the screen. Sort of like a double-exposure in still photography.
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Does this help?
Does this help?
From &quot;All You Need Is Cash&quot; - George Harrison makes a cameo, interviewing the band's press spokesman 'Eric Manchester' — based on Beatles press agent Derek Taylor, played by Michael Palin.
From "All You Need Is Cash" - George Harrison makes a cameo, interviewing the band's press spokesman 'Eric Manchester' — based on Beatles press agent Derek Taylor, played by Michael Palin.
The Rutles not-so-subtle-sendup of John meeting Yoko in 1966 at Indica Gallery in London.
The Rutles not-so-subtle-sendup of John meeting Yoko in 1966 at Indica Gallery in London.
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wj350 wrote:Apologies in advance for the off-route vector, but what guitar is "John" playing in that Rutles clip? Is that an LP Double Cut?l
It's hard to say, isn't it?
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It's an SG with a Bigsby from where I'm sitting.
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tennis_nick wrote:It's an SG with a Bigsby from where I'm sitting.
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Thanks guys...I thought the body looked a little wide for an SG, but I couldn't really tell.

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