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Lennon Caption on Sullivan?

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 1:28 pm
by firstbassman
In the Wikipedia article on the film “That Thing You Do” it mentions that the on-screen caption warning female watchers that one of the characters was engaged is based on a similar action taken during the Beatles appearance on Ed Sullivan.

Does anyone have any proof that an on-screen caption said John was married? Which song did it occur in? I have not seen it on any of the YouTube clips I’ve seen.

Thanks.

Re: Lennon Caption on Sullivan?

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 1:56 pm
by Scastles
Mark, they were singing Til There Was You. They CG'd each band members name (if you call it that back in '64). When they got to John it included the caption, 'Sorry girls. He's married'. I have it on the DVD, the Beatles, the First U.S. Visit

Re: Lennon Caption on Sullivan?

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:32 pm
by wj350
Look at about 3:44 in the vid below:


Bill

Re: Lennon Caption on Sullivan?

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 5:04 pm
by beatlefreak
Evidently, they didb't realize that Ringo was also married.

Re: Lennon Caption on Sullivan?

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 5:05 pm
by tennis_nick
beatlefreak wrote:Evidently, they didb't realize that Ringo was also married.
He only got married in 1965.

Re: Lennon Caption on Sullivan?

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 5:12 pm
by Scastles
tennis_nick wrote:
beatlefreak wrote:Evidently, they didb't realize that Ringo was also married.
He only got married in 1965.

Almost one year to the date later, Feb 11th, 1965.

Re: Lennon Caption on Sullivan?

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 5:27 pm
by kennyhowes
firstbassman wrote:In the Wikipedia article on the film “That Thing You Do” it mentions that the on-screen caption warning female watchers that one of the characters was engaged is based on a similar action taken during the Beatles appearance on Ed Sullivan.

Does anyone have any proof that an on-screen caption said John was married? Which song did it occur in? I have not seen it on any of the YouTube clips I’ve seen.

Thanks.
Actually, it's from this, skip to 1:25...

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Re: Lennon Caption on Sullivan?

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:30 am
by brammy
Cynthia and John were married on August 23, 1962 at the Mount Pleasant Registry Office in Liverpool, and Julian was born on April 8, 1963..... so at the time of the first Sullivan show, John was VERY married indeed.
John Lennon
John Lennon
Barry Wom
Barry Wom
Yes, Ringo married Maureen Cox on 11 February 1965
maureen.jpg

Re: Lennon Caption on Sullivan?

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:36 am
by wj350
Apologies in advance for the off-route vector, but what guitar is "John" playing in that Rutles clip? Is that an LP Double Cut?

Bill

Re: Lennon Caption on Sullivan?

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:34 pm
by firstbassman
Thanks guys!

I don't know how I missed that on YouTube.
:?:

buzfluhart wrote:Mark, they were singing Til There Was You. They CG'd each band members name (if you call it that back in '64).

No, there definitely was no Computer Graphics then.

I don’t even know if there were character generators yet. There might have been, I just don’t know. (Those did appear by the late 60s/early 70s.)

If not, then they used a device that looked sort of like a small semi-enclosed Ferris wheel drum. The drum was about two feet in diameter and could hold about eight or more “cards” with a TV camera lens point at one held spot. A combination of the scene on stage and with the drum holding a “Paul” in white characters would show up together on the screen. Sort of like a double-exposure in still photography.

Re: Lennon Caption on Sullivan?

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:24 pm
by brammy
Does this help?
Does this help?
From &quot;All You Need Is Cash&quot; - George Harrison makes a cameo, interviewing the band's press spokesman 'Eric Manchester' — based on Beatles press agent Derek Taylor, played by Michael Palin.
From "All You Need Is Cash" - George Harrison makes a cameo, interviewing the band's press spokesman 'Eric Manchester' — based on Beatles press agent Derek Taylor, played by Michael Palin.
The Rutles not-so-subtle-sendup of John meeting Yoko in 1966 at Indica Gallery in London.
The Rutles not-so-subtle-sendup of John meeting Yoko in 1966 at Indica Gallery in London.

Re: Lennon Caption on Sullivan?

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:34 pm
by brammy
wj350 wrote:Apologies in advance for the off-route vector, but what guitar is "John" playing in that Rutles clip? Is that an LP Double Cut?l
It's hard to say, isn't it?
rut-guitar2.jpg
rut-guitar1.jpg

Re: Lennon Caption on Sullivan?

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:49 pm
by tennis_nick
It's an SG with a Bigsby from where I'm sitting.

Re: Lennon Caption on Sullivan?

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:00 pm
by kennyhowes
tennis_nick wrote:It's an SG with a Bigsby from where I'm sitting.
+1

Re: Lennon Caption on Sullivan?

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:10 pm
by wj350
Thanks guys...I thought the body looked a little wide for an SG, but I couldn't really tell.

Bill