Model 1993 Reissue 6 String

[k43rover]

From the 1987 Sam Ash special order run of 1993 12 string reissues, one of a small number of 6 strings produced at the same time. This one was originally built with an R tail piece.

[godber]

Love it...nearly bought it - Wolfgang was a nice chap!

Congrats Eddie, it's great.

[k43rover]

..thanks Mark. It is a beautiful shade of dark Fireglo..almost like Autumnglo in places..

[scotty]

Very nice!

[uusak]

that is awsome..

[JakeK]

Ed, your 1993/6 has a similar shade of fireglo to my 360/12V64. What do you think? It came smack dab in the middle of that run, wouldn't be surprised if they were close in serial number...

[k43rover]

Ed, your 1993/6 has a similar shade of fireglo to my 360/12V64. What do you think? It came smack dab in the middle of that run, wouldn't be surprised if they were close in serial number...

Interesting observation Jake. It's a tricky one as I think unless you have the guitars physically in front of you it's almost impossible to accurately compare because of all the issues with photographing colours. Certainly the factory classified the finish on the 1993/6 as fireglo (see cavity FG marking shot below). However, it is a much darker, almost brownish Fireglo, than others I have personally seen. When I first saw it it put me in mind of pictures of Autumnglo finished guitars. If you look at pictures of other Sam Ash 1987 contract guitars in the register they all look to have this darker/brown tinged FG finish. I may be wrong, but it seems to me that the shade of FG used on these Ash guitars must have been consciously mixed differently to other '87 made FG guitars.

You are right about overlapping '87 dates; this 1987 production period also coincides with the Pete Townsend 1998 signature guitars which started shortly after the Ash guitars.

I am attaching a picture of the 1993/6 taken indoors side by side with your V64 indoors shot. To me the 1993/6 finish looks darker/browner. I would say the FG on your V64 looks more like an '87 Townsend reissue dark red FG finish.

[Ivan3000]

There's something about f-holes on ricks that I like. Nice 1993 Reissue.

[FGM]

The shade of that SA 1993/6 looks exactly like the shade of my SA 1993/12. When I ordered it I remember Jimmy D. telling me that this FG shade was a custom finish also, an attempt to match the older 60s Ric shades, but I'm not sure from when he meant. Seems every RM 1993 I've seen has more of that brighter, slighly orangier hue to them.

[collin]

The shade of that SA 1993/6 looks exactly like the shade of my SA 1993/12. When I ordered it I remember Jimmy D. telling me that this FG shade was a custom finish also, an attempt to match the older 60s Ric shades, but I'm not sure from when he meant. Seems every RM 1993 I've seen has more of that brighter, slighly orangier hue to them.

Nice Frank!

Always cool to see owner's of the SA reissues.

From what i've owned and seen in person, the SA reissues got the same Fireglo shade/pattern that all early 1997/1997SPC guitars received between '86-'88 (including the Pete Townshend LE models). Bit more orange than the later reissues, but not the same as the genuine 60s article either (which also has more decades of aging..)

[JakeK]

I think Frank actually dedicated an entire thread with pictures of his 1993/12, Col. By the way, what are your thoughts on my '86 (from the first batch, possibly for the '87 NAMM show) fireglo pattern, seen also in this thread? My V64, too, is in this thread.

Yep, Here 'Tis:
viewtopic.php?f=51&t=393054

Now, Ed, you believe my V64 has a pattern similar to that of a PT...that might be true, but it was made in March of '87, while the first PT surfaced in July, and I think that was Pete's own #1...sans signature guard. I hope to see Gary Clauson's own 1998 Townshend (which IIRC is from August) this Saturday at SCARF to make a decision for myself. I've heard nothing but good things about this model from Rich and Gary himself, so I'm hoping it won't disappoint.

But, Frank, your 12-string is a holy grail guitar for both of us. I will own a reissue-style 1993/12...even if I have to customize that broken 1997 for myself...I will...

[collin]

Looks near enough the same, to my eyes.

and honestly, 100% historical accuracy to details was not on the agenda back in those days (until the C-series), so I can't see why they would take a standard production item and make a "special" Fireglo for it. They pretty much took a 1997 RI and added binding, and a 360/12v64 and changed out for the f-hole template and included a dot fretboard.

Doesn't dimish from their awesomeness one bit...but it makes logical sense production-wise.


ps....i've always laughed at the idea of a Model 1993/6 "reissue" anyways. How can you reissue a guitar that never existed originally?

[k43rover]

The shade of that SA 1993/6 looks exactly like the shade of my SA 1993/12. When I ordered it I remember Jimmy D. telling me that this FG shade was a custom finish also, an attempt to match the older 60s Ric shades, but I'm not sure from when he meant. Seems every RM 1993 I've seen has more of that brighter, slighly orangier hue to them.

Thanks for sharing those recollections Frank. I've owned several late '80's FG Ricks over the years and none were close to the colour shading on this 1993/6. The shading is also different from any of the '60's FG's I've owned/seen "in the flesh" (including RoMo guitars). This suggests to me that your recollections are 100% accurate and that these SA guitars were a unique custom shade of FG used only on this small batch of guitars.

I will see if I can borrow a PT here in the UK and take some shots of the 1993/6 next to it as this would clearly show the difference in FG under the same camera/light conditions (should put Collin's mind at rest ).

[collin]

I will see if I can borrow a PT here in the UK and take some shots of the 1993/6 next to it as this would clearly show the difference in FG under the same camera/light conditions (should put Collin's mind at rest ).

Line em up, would be cool to see regardless!


ps...nice to see you round here, Eddie -- it's been awhile!

[winston]

That's a great looking guitar Eddie.