Stupid question?
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fireglo67
Stupid question?
I hope not.......
If I were to put a pair of modern toaster pickups onto a one of my 330/6's, would it sound more or less the same as my 360/6 V64?
Or is there a difference in the wiring/electronics between the 2 models?
Ta.
Rob.
If I were to put a pair of modern toaster pickups onto a one of my 330/6's, would it sound more or less the same as my 360/6 V64?
Or is there a difference in the wiring/electronics between the 2 models?
Ta.
Rob.
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Ain'tGotNoPokemon
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Re: Stupid question?
If I were to answer your question, I'd say it would sound close. However, I have always been puzzled by people who want their guitars to sound like their other guitars, when they already have that sound. Couldn't your 330 just be a 330 and your 360 a 360? Just a thought.
However, there are things to take into account - My first observation would be the difference in body shape - The treble horns, for example. Then, the age difference between the two; if they're a decade or more apart, I'd say maybe the 330 couldn't emulate the 360. Some people believe the finish affects the tone, and if they're different colors, you'd have to decide for yourself. Guitars are interesting beasts. You can have the same two guitars, made in the same day, and it wouldn't be surprising if they sounded slightly different.
However, there are things to take into account - My first observation would be the difference in body shape - The treble horns, for example. Then, the age difference between the two; if they're a decade or more apart, I'd say maybe the 330 couldn't emulate the 360. Some people believe the finish affects the tone, and if they're different colors, you'd have to decide for yourself. Guitars are interesting beasts. You can have the same two guitars, made in the same day, and it wouldn't be surprising if they sounded slightly different.
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fireglo67
Re: Stupid question?
I actually want it to sound very different or I wont bother changing the pickups.
I know that every guitar sounds and plays slightly differently, I'm talking about big differences here.
I prefer the definition of toasters compared to high gains, but I was wondering if there was any sort of limiting circuitry in the V64. If there is then obviously the regular 330 would have a beefier sound.
BTW. the 330 and 360V64 both have pointy horns.
Here they are.....
I know that every guitar sounds and plays slightly differently, I'm talking about big differences here.
I prefer the definition of toasters compared to high gains, but I was wondering if there was any sort of limiting circuitry in the V64. If there is then obviously the regular 330 would have a beefier sound.
BTW. the 330 and 360V64 both have pointy horns.
Here they are.....
Re: Stupid question?
The neck pickup is going to be a huge difference. Your 360 has 21 frets, whereas your 330 has 24. I don't know how tonally, but I've heard the neck pickup will be different, but based on where your pickup selector switch is, it appears like you mostly use the bridge pickup, which in that case will sound similar.
It also depends on what kind of toasters you will be using for the 330 and what toasters are in the V64.
It also depends on what kind of toasters you will be using for the 330 and what toasters are in the V64.
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fireglo67
Re: Stupid question?
The V64 has the 'hot' toasters.
The 330 may be getting brand new toasters.
The 330 may be getting brand new toasters.
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So this means, that right now, your 330 and V64 have a similar sound, not quite the same, but similar. The new toasters will have a thinner sound than the V64's hot toasters.
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Put the v64 toasters 12k in the 330 and the 7ks in the v64.Thats what i did Rob.Plug the 330 into a amp,turn up and blow the knickers off yer neighbours washing line!
you go girl....
you go girl....
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fireglo67
Re: Stupid question?
scotty wrote:Put the v64 toasters 12k in the 330 and the 7ks in the v64.Thats what i did Rob.Plug the 330 into a amp,turn up and blow the knickers off yer neighbours washing line!
you go girl....
So all the modern toasters are 7K and the old 'hot' ones are 12K?
That helps.
Thanks fella.
Watch your knickers girls......
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fireglo67
Re: Stupid question?
Actually the 330 and my V64 are like chalk and cheese, totally different in tone.JakeK wrote:So this means, that right now, your 330 and V64 have a similar sound, not quite the same, but similar. The new toasters will have a thinner sound than the V64's hot toasters.
The 330 howls like a beast when required, but the V64 hates any attempt at feedback and sqeals like a girl at a Bieber gig, that's why I thought there may be something different about the circuitry.
A toaster sound that is 'thinner' than my V64 does not appeal, I have to say.
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I wouldn't say "thinner," I'd say "more '60s jangle, less hard edge."FIREGLO67 wrote: A toaster sound that is 'thinner' than my V64 does not appeal, I have to say.
IMO the vintage toasters will need a bit more volume from your amp to "thicken up."
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fireglo67
Re: Stupid question?
Thanks Ron.
I've always plenty of oomph to spare with the old AC30.
I've always plenty of oomph to spare with the old AC30.
- Hotzenplotz
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Re: Stupid question?
My advice: combine the "thinner" toasters with a good compressor - if necessary!
I use the Marshall ED-1 ("Ed the compressor") toghether with a VOX AC30VR amp from time to time.
From smooth and gently weeping
to rough and loud. - All included.
I use the Marshall ED-1 ("Ed the compressor") toghether with a VOX AC30VR amp from time to time.
From smooth and gently weeping
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Ain'tGotNoPokemon
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Re: Stupid question?
Many of us have preferences for Comps.Hotzenplotz wrote:My advice: combine the "thinner" toasters with a good compressor - if necessary!
I use the Marshall ED-1 ("Ed the compressor") toghether with a VOX AC30VR amp from time to time.
From smooth and gently weepingto rough and loud. - All included.
However, I have heard that too much Compression doesn't accentuate the unique Toaster sound.
But as the OPer said, a Vox will add a good bit of growl and depth to any pickup.
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Re: Stupid question?
I use the compressor to amplify (a bit!) the toasters and put all the other effects out.
And yes, it depends from the amp. A VOX does it right.
And yes, it depends from the amp. A VOX does it right.
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fireglo67
Re: Stupid question?
I couldn't get on with a compressor. I found it to be far too noisy, and the nozzle didn't fit in the jack hole. I'll try a foot pump next and let you know how I get on..
