What is this?

[rar]

I bought this in probably 1975-1976. I bought it used and have no idea of history. Even if I did know the history, I probably would have forgotten it by now It was a rough when I bought it, but I liked how it played. Is it really a Rickenbacker and, if so, what model and vintage? Thanks, -randy

[jfine]

It's a Model 450. I'm guessing around 1960 or so, maybe a year later. Most of them from that era had a gold pickguard and nameplate--the white came a bit later. However, the bridge configuration and nameplate shape are consistent with the earlier gold ones. The ones I've seen with white parts had a one-piece metal bridge saddle for all six strings, and the nameplate came to a curving point on the end, rather than following the shape of the headstock. If those parts are original, it looks like you've got a transitional version, and it's the first one I've seen. What's the serial number? That can help date it. Actually, now that I read your post, I've noticed that you said it was a little rough when you got it. Have the pickguard and nameplate been changed? Is the finish original? Fireglo is very common on the later version, but not so much on the earlier variant. What it kind of looks like (and I'm not saying this is what it is) is a later body and neck with earlier hardware. If it is original, you've got a rare one.

[rar]

The numbers I see on the bridge are these. Do they indicate anything? I'd have to start taking things apart to see more.

4 C
73A

It is pretty much the same shape as when I bought it. I am not experienced enough to tell whether it has been re-finished or what has been replaced - I haven't replaced anything.

Actually, I am a little surprised that it is actually a Rickenbacker - the name plate is a different shape and doesn't say "Made in USA".

Thanks, -randy

[tristanbacker]

George Harrison used one of this in I want to Hold your Hand.

[sloop_john_b]

The guitar is legit late 50's but that nameplate appears to be some kind of reproduction.

[jwilli]

Is the nameplate metal or plastic? To me, it looks like someone painted the metal white and went over the "Rickenbacker" with black.

Rickenbacker instruments didn't have the "Made in USA" on the cover until '64.

Jesus: GH did use a Rickenbacker in "A Hard Day's Night" but it was a '63 360/12 OS.

[jingle_jangle]

JWilli's nailed it--the antiqued pewter original nameplate/TRC has been carefully painted white with black lettering. Kinda odd-looking...

Nice 450. I love 'em.

[jwilli]

Jesus: GH did use a Rickenbacker in "A Hard Day's Night" but it was a '63 360/12 OS.

Oops, I glanced at your post too quickly.. I too, have heard that GH used a '62 425 on IWHYH.