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How do you identify fake TRC's?
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:54 pm
by vintagemusicgear
I'm beginning to see a lot of Ric TRC's pop up for sale. Some obviously look fake, some look pretty good. Any idea how to ID a fake one? I have a gold TRC with embossed letters on the back, so I figure that is legit. But wonder if there are any markers or clues to spot the fakers in general....
Re: How do you identify fake TRC's?
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:18 pm
by winston
David,
Clearly if we list all the reasons..........the fake TRC's will only get harder to spot.
Re: How do you identify fake TRC's?
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:28 pm
by Hotzenplotz
Maybe to tell certain points helps others to improve their fakes. Not to write about can not stop faking, of course, but maybe it keeps a few cheater away.
Not to leave You alone: I learned to identify the real TRCs from watching at the gallery over and over again. - A nice way to learn a bit more about the people and their "stock" here, BTW!
In the end there are only about a dozen of different TRCs.
In the gallery - searched by years - You can see also how the TRCs age over the years very naturally. - Hard to fake!
Re: How do you identify fake TRC's?
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:47 pm
by aceonbass
Real RIC plexi TRC's are silk screened on the back, then painted, not "embossed' on the back. I've been seeing a lot of fakes on Ebay myself, and the think that nails it for me is the color and shape of the gold ones. That and the fact that the SAME seller is always selling a TRC off of a guitar he salvaged from some totaled guitar. His screen name is "origw72".
Re: How do you identify fake TRC's?
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:52 pm
by vintagemusicgear
I guess what I am seeing is the outline of the decal, not really embossed, but the back is not completely flat.
Re: How do you identify fake TRC's?
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:54 pm
by winston
Perhaps post a couple of pics David. We can tell you if it's real or not.
Re: How do you identify fake TRC's?
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:19 pm
by vintagemusicgear
aceonbass wrote:Real RIC plexi TRC's are silk screened on the back, then painted, not "embossed' on the back. I've been seeing a lot of fakes on Ebay myself, and the think that nails it for me is the color and shape of the gold ones. That and the fact that the SAME seller is always selling a TRC off of a guitar he salvaged from some totaled guitar. His screen name is "origw72".
I agree that "origw72" is a shady character, and his TRC's don't even look close to the real thing. What do you think of these guys?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/250928682270?ss ... 1439.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/330651005915?ss ... 1439.l2649
Does anyone have experience with these sellers?
Re: How do you identify fake TRC's?
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:30 pm
by cjj
"lpnnursechristine" seems to have a LOT of TRCs and pickguards for sale. I mean, WAY more than should be believable...
Re: How do you identify fake TRC's?
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:39 pm
by vintagemusicgear
cjj wrote:"lpnnursechristine" seems to have a LOT of TRCs and pickguards for sale. I mean, WAY more than should be believable...
I agree. His white plexi ones definitely look suspicious, but the 660/12 on ebay looks okay I guess.
Re: How do you identify fake TRC's?
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:35 am
by Seans
I think he'd had a few too many soda's when he did the script for the white ones.
Re: How do you identify fake TRC's?
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:34 pm
by jingle_jangle
vintagemusicgear wrote:I guess what I am seeing is the outline of the decal, not really embossed, but the back is not completely flat.
Not a decal, but black silk-screening, painted over with the background color.
Silk screen ink is a paste, and when it dries it has thickness.