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Hum Cancelling - another option?
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 10:12 pm
by iiipopes
I have nagged at RIC for years to develop a "toasterbucker" to address the single coil hum that all such equipped guitars and basses, not just RIC instruments, are prone to exhibit, and that approaches "vintage" chime and jangle, instead of the drive that HB-1 pickups are known for.
But, as we all know, no matter what system of added coil hum reduction is tried, it affects tone. This stems from the original idea that it takes two identical coils, one opposite in both magnetic and electrical polarity to the other, to buck hum.
I ran across this reference in another forum. It seems to work well. Maybe not perfectly, but well enough. I wonder if it could be adapted to RIC instruments:
http://www.ilitchelectronics.com/hum-canceling-systems/
Please discuss.
Re: Hum Cancelling - another option?
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:06 pm
by cassius987
Well, RWRP doesn't affect tone other than requiring both volumes be up which itself affects tone independent of the RWRP. Audere tried to get around this with a dummy coil for Jazz Basses so either pickup can be soloed without hum.
Re: Hum Cancelling - another option?
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:13 pm
by jps
cassius987 wrote:...Audere tried to get around this with a dummy coil for Jazz Basses so either pickup can be soloed without hum.
That is what Alembic has been doing for many decades in their Series I and Series II electronics. Very successfully, too.
Re: Hum Cancelling - another option?
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:17 am
by iiipopes
That's the entire point of my post. Everything that uses a "conventional" dummy coil affects tone significantely, including the Strat Elite and others like it. I'm wondering what this non-conventional approach to noise reduction would do on a Rick. The Fender folks seem to think it has minimal effect on a Strat pickup tone with significant noise reduction.
Re: Hum Cancelling - another option?
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:51 pm
by bassman4001
Re: Hum Cancelling - another option?
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:58 pm
by jps
That's for a different issue (ground loops and other AC related hum IIRC), not single coil hum.
Re: Hum Cancelling - another option?
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 7:43 pm
by Ric5150
I haven't looked into it in detail, but Music Man is now putting an active noise cancelling system in single coil equipped guitars. It's in my Armada MM90 (P-90s) and actually works pretty well. You can "A/B" it by flipping the 9V battery door open. Significant hum reduction with very little adverse impact.
Re: Hum Cancelling - another option?
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:05 pm
by Dr. Frankenrick
http://www.creamery-pickups.co.uk/custo ... cancelling
Toasterbuckers have landed. After numerous emails back and forth with Jaime, I got a set of these wound with 43awg to 9k at the neck and 10.5k bridge. Slightly fatter sounding than a single coil but still very "Rick".
I know that there is some debate which Toaster is better, the 12ks or the 7.4ks, so I decided to split the difference when it came to the output of these.
Re: Hum Cancelling - another option?
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 12:18 pm
by sloop_john_b
Dr. Frankenrick wrote:http://www.creamery-pickups.co.uk/custo ... cancelling
Toasterbuckers have landed. After numerous emails back and forth with Jaime, I got a set of these wound with 43awg to 9k at the neck and 10.5k bridge. Slightly fatter sounding than a single coil but still very "Rick".
I know that there is some debate which Toaster is better, the 12ks or the 7.4ks, so I decided to split the difference when it came to the output of these.
Has anyone tried these yet? I'm super interested in the High '68 Humbucker.