How to finger the intro chord of AHDN?
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willem
How to finger the intro chord of AHDN?
If there is a complementary piano sounding at the same time, what notes are played on it?
try a Gminor 7th sus4
this is barre across the third fret with 1st finger ,fret the 5th string at the 5th fret and fret the 3rd string at the 5th fret .It has worked for me for years.
http://www.voxtalks.com argued this one to death
this is barre across the third fret with 1st finger ,fret the 5th string at the 5th fret and fret the 3rd string at the 5th fret .It has worked for me for years.
http://www.voxtalks.com argued this one to death
So you too want yours "ALAPWOB"?!?!
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Me
Well, according to my copy of "The Beatles Complete Scores" it's...
George
E -3-
B -1-
G -0-
D -0-
A ---
E ---
John on 12 string
E -3-
B -3-
G -5-
D -5-
A -5-
E -3-
Paul on Bass
G ---
D ---
A -5-
E ---
There's no mention of piano
Me
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George
E -3-
B -1-
G -0-
D -0-
A ---
E ---
John on 12 string
E -3-
B -3-
G -5-
D -5-
A -5-
E -3-
Paul on Bass
G ---
D ---
A -5-
E ---
There's no mention of piano
Me
http://www.mp3.com/tonalfusion
Geez, I'd hate to argue with a book, but I sorta doubt that George would be playing a dopey 1st position chord on a 6 string and John would be playing a barre on a 12 string... given that it is clearly the Ricky which was GH's new baby...
but, what do I know.
I've also heard this argued to death for the last ten years or so (as long as I've been on various on-line discussion forums) and I'm not convinced anyone knows.
I've also heard George say it was an F with added G...
...of course we all know what ingesting and smoking those jazz ciggies can do to the memory.
What were we talking about anyway?
but, what do I know.
I've also heard this argued to death for the last ten years or so (as long as I've been on various on-line discussion forums) and I'm not convinced anyone knows.
I've also heard George say it was an F with added G...
...of course we all know what ingesting and smoking those jazz ciggies can do to the memory.
What were we talking about anyway?
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Me
THe chord that George plays at the end is an F with him lifting his little finger/pinkie on and off the first string at the third fret,the G note ....that is obvious.Try it .This is the fade out chord.
If you have the Sessions book by Mark Lewisohn,look at the day of Thursday April 16,1964.The notes are not long on it's recording.
I too have the Scores book ,but have found it in error in many places .It is however a wonderful source of info .I just take it with a grain of salt ....sort of like the newspaper .
If you have the Sessions book by Mark Lewisohn,look at the day of Thursday April 16,1964.The notes are not long on it's recording.
I too have the Scores book ,but have found it in error in many places .It is however a wonderful source of info .I just take it with a grain of salt ....sort of like the newspaper .
So you too want yours "ALAPWOB"?!?!
I just spent 30 minutes with my wife and I listening to this intro and playing the Scores version ,I vote no to the G sus 4 chord on the 12 string .
The Lennon chord and the McCartney bass note yes .
There seems to our ears to be an F in the chord that George is playing on the 12 string .
John was a lazy guitarist (according to George) and the C with a G over the open G and D strings seems correct.
George is a thinking guitarist and with George Martin calling it a 'Strident' chord this teacher telling his student how to add tension seems likely and it is sort of a Rockabilly chord .The F really does it .
I am checking my Ed Sullivan tapes later and SEE what George plays .Also will look in a few other video tapes .
Rumor has it that there is a show in Sweden or Italy that shows what George plays ....I have the Budakon tapes ,it might be there.
The Lennon chord and the McCartney bass note yes .
There seems to our ears to be an F in the chord that George is playing on the 12 string .
John was a lazy guitarist (according to George) and the C with a G over the open G and D strings seems correct.
George is a thinking guitarist and with George Martin calling it a 'Strident' chord this teacher telling his student how to add tension seems likely and it is sort of a Rockabilly chord .The F really does it .
I am checking my Ed Sullivan tapes later and SEE what George plays .Also will look in a few other video tapes .
Rumor has it that there is a show in Sweden or Italy that shows what George plays ....I have the Budakon tapes ,it might be there.
So you too want yours "ALAPWOB"?!?!
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willem
try a Gminor 7th sus4
A quick market test.... Played the above for my Family and asked whats this from....
David 11, " a beatles song", Alyce 13 ," HARD DAYS NIGHT , Thats great dad," Wife 40something, " that sounds nice dear".
Im now a hero and the chord sounds right to me. I suspect Ill glue my ear to the phones to see if there is something else behind the chord. BTW played on a 360/12 with some reverb, treble pick up on full and bass cut via equaliser.
A quick market test.... Played the above for my Family and asked whats this from....
David 11, " a beatles song", Alyce 13 ," HARD DAYS NIGHT , Thats great dad," Wife 40something, " that sounds nice dear".
Im now a hero and the chord sounds right to me. I suspect Ill glue my ear to the phones to see if there is something else behind the chord. BTW played on a 360/12 with some reverb, treble pick up on full and bass cut via equaliser.
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NickD
the problem with the AHDN chord is that George is playing one thing, John another, and paul yet another. (Not to mention George Martin on piano).
as a result it gets confusing. what i believe is correct, is Mark's message from the 21st is correct for John's chord, and Nick D. is the correct formation for George's chord. that is the way we played it in the old days. but it wouldn't be the first time in my life that i've been wrong...i've also been married twice!
all the best,
steve
as a result it gets confusing. what i believe is correct, is Mark's message from the 21st is correct for John's chord, and Nick D. is the correct formation for George's chord. that is the way we played it in the old days. but it wouldn't be the first time in my life that i've been wrong...i've also been married twice!
all the best,
steve
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willem
Our bassplayer has done some serious research
(using his computer slowing down the speed while maintaining the tonality) on AHDN. He claims: 1.there is no 12-string guitar;
2.the famous first chord is played on one guitar with a capo on the 3rd fret (from low to high):
g(open, but hardly or not audible) d g c d(open) g(open).
On the third count an additional f is hammered onto the open b string.
He is sure to have discovered the secret.
(using his computer slowing down the speed while maintaining the tonality) on AHDN. He claims: 1.there is no 12-string guitar;
2.the famous first chord is played on one guitar with a capo on the 3rd fret (from low to high):
g(open, but hardly or not audible) d g c d(open) g(open).
On the third count an additional f is hammered onto the open b string.
He is sure to have discovered the secret.
Not to say that your bass player didn't do a lot of research...
...but to claim there is no twelve string on AHDN is ludicrous.
A simple listen to somebody attempting this intro with or without (specifically) a Rickenbacker 12 string will tell anyone familiar with the song that one was used.
Just my own opinion and everyone is entitled to their own (of course, I wonder why the Rickenbacker Instrument Corporation would have that hammered AHDN chord as their telephone answering system's "greeting" if THEY didn't think one was used there too?)
...but to claim there is no twelve string on AHDN is ludicrous.
A simple listen to somebody attempting this intro with or without (specifically) a Rickenbacker 12 string will tell anyone familiar with the song that one was used.
Just my own opinion and everyone is entitled to their own (of course, I wonder why the Rickenbacker Instrument Corporation would have that hammered AHDN chord as their telephone answering system's "greeting" if THEY didn't think one was used there too?)
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willem
Thanks grsnovi,to be honest, although our bassplayer is a painstakingly precise guy he did not convince me either; but I'm trying to be the devil's advocate. Do you(or anyone) know if Mark Lewisohn mentioned a 12-string in his book on Beatles recordings? "The complete scores" do mention a 12-string, but we have already etablished here that these musicologists have made quite a few mistakes.I didn't know about the telephone answering system of Rickenbacker; nice thing to know. But:they also make 6-strings!