What tuners did geddy have on his 4001?

nattiep · Post by **nattiep** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:13 pm

I can't tell.

Schaller M4s? Old grovers?

Not the best pic, but what're ya gonna do?

rickfan60 · Post by **rickfan60** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:40 pm

They look like Grovers to me.

ken_swearingen · Post by **ken_swearingen** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:00 pm

They were wavy Grovers in that shot,but soon replaced them cause they fell apart.

bob_atherton · Post by **bob_atherton** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:20 pm

I don’t get this Wavy Grover ‘thing’ . Two of my basses have wavy Grovers & IMO they are a poor design. It’s lucky that I don’t play in a heavy rock band any more as I don’t think the Grovers would survive more than a handful of gigs.

ken_swearingen · Post by **ken_swearingen** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:27 pm

Bob, your right but I don't think Ric. had a choice, Kluson, went out of business all of the sudden.

rickaddict · Post by **rickaddict** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:59 am

Are you sure they aren't Schaller's? I have a set of open-back Schaller's from the 70's that were a common mod for Ricks back then. They're really solid(and heavy). They have a prominent ridge down the middle of the keywind and large posts that require drilling the headstock holes out. I have definitely seen them in photos of Geddy Ricks in the past, but I can't tell so much in this photo.

On a second look at the photo...I see 1 inch spacing and what appears to be a raised-letter TRC, so I'm gonna say Schallers.

rickaddict · Post by **rickaddict** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:35 am

Here is a better shot of the Schallers I'm talking about:

ken_swearingen · Post by **ken_swearingen** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:55 am

You might be right there Jeff I know he replaced them I don't know what he put on,they look similar to wavy grovers he would have taken off.

jwr2 · Post by **jwr2** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:02 am

Grovers suck ... they look funny and they fall apart ... they are too cheap to be on a Rickenbacker ...

jwr2 · Post by **jwr2** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:03 am

these days Geddy's 4001 basses sport schaller m4 tuners ... pretty much the same as what a 4004 has ...

rickfan60 · Post by **rickfan60** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:10 am

I had some open gear Grovers that looked a lot like the ones in above picture of Geddy. The Schaller pic posted by Jeff reminds me that I once had some like that too. I change my opinion to Schaller.

thinneckrick · Post by **thinneckrick** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:17 am

Geddy used schaller tuners on his old rickys .

bobcat · Post by **bobcat** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:31 am

Grover's these days aren't bad though . . . probably because they don't make the same tuners. I'm using a set of Grover Titans on one of my basses, and they're just fine.

nattiep · Post by **nattiep** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:41 am

Geddy uses those schallers on his Wal basses too.
http://walbasses.homestead.com/MachineHeads.html
See... up top.

nattiep · Post by **nattiep** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:59 am

http://www.schaller-guitarparts.de/1137.htm
That it?