General Bootleg Discussion

bee_atles · Post by **bee_atles** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:51 pm

Thanks Jamie.

Hhahaahaha. That's awesome Kent.

jwilli · Post by **jwilli** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:54 pm

3rd round technical knockout! Don Ho was reduced to a tiny bloody bubble.....

milo · Post by **milo** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:19 am

Although it's not a Beatle's bootleg, has anyone ever heard a bootleg of "Letting Go" from the BOTR sessions? A local radio station played it a couple of years ago and I've been looking for a copy ever since. I've always liked that song but this version had a much better groove to it and sounded great. It was a completed and mixed take as far as I can tell but it didn't have the little bit of extra polish and stuff that the released version had.

glass_onion · Post by **glass_onion** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:51 pm

hey edgar

i'd love a copy of those demos, i have e mailed you but if you haven't received the e mail let me know

cheers

ealdrett · Post by **ealdrett** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:22 pm

Harry,

It appears that MSN is blocking mail from forumites. Microsoft sucks!!
Use this email:
[email protected]
Aisha, you too.

Thanks

leesh · Post by **leesh** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:53 pm

Thanks Edgar. You da man.

rumbush · Post by **rumbush** » Mon May 01, 2006 10:44 am

I have a copy of the Don Ho boot, but on CD. It was re-recorded at the wrong speed unfortunately. Is the LP the same?

AFAIK, the 27-minute version of HS does not exist on any bootleg label. Paul is the only person with a copy of the tape, and I'll wager it will never be released.

IMHO The best reproduction yet done (not official) of the Esher material is a boot called "From Kinfauns to Chaos." Check that out. IIRC it was released on the now defunct Vigotone label.

jamie · Post by **jamie** » Mon May 01, 2006 11:17 am

After listening to the boot of take 2 of HS which is played at a much slower tempo I wonder if that would be the same tempo that the 27min version was recorded?

scott_s · Post by **scott_s** » Mon May 01, 2006 3:26 pm

<rant>One quibble -- I haven't listened to any of the boots for $ale, but a 128 kbps mp3 is NOT CD quality, not even close. Had they ripped them with a decent bitrate (160 kbps at minimum), I'd be interested, but anyone with good ears can hear the pixellation. Ugh. </rant>

jamie · Post by **jamie** » Mon May 01, 2006 3:39 pm

I agree that 128bit MP3's are not the best quality but a lot of boots were horrendous to start with and not what I would consider CD quality.

I recall being very disappointed after paying what I considered to be a lot of money on old vinyl boots back in the day only to discover it was barely listenable. Non-returnable and always a gamble.

That said a lot of the Mp3 boots I have sound fine and its given me the opportunity to hear a lot of songs/demos for the first time. Some are better than other still depending on the source I imagine.

ealdrett · Post by **ealdrett** » Mon May 01, 2006 5:01 pm

Stay away from encoded audio or compressed audio. The boots that are sold with lossy audio is a waste of money and a rip off. Usually a lot of the material is sourced from online sources where at times the downloaded file might be a low bit rate and people think that transcoding to a higher bitrate will make it sound better. Not the case. There is a reason why it's called lossy, once you compress it, it's gone, vanished, caput.
Better to get it from a good source.
I never thought that digital audio could get any worse than bad sourced analog audio from the old days. I was wrong. The times are all about convenience and speed. Quality is out the door.
I guess we took ten steps back to bad sounding bootlegs.

Oh, and go to Vigotone.com. You'll find some titles that are still for sale. They even copies of 30 Days.

bee_atles · Post by **bee_atles** » Mon May 01, 2006 7:51 pm

I will agree that quality has gone down hill thanks to online bootlegs and downloading, but it makes it alot easier for someone to get access and get introduced to beatlegs. I have downloaded some pretty good quality stuff though, it's just harder to find. I just wish original beatlegs were easier to get ahold of now days, but I guess the hunt is part of the fun.

And if I had the money I would for sure by the 30 days set.

webhead · Post by **webhead** » Wed May 03, 2006 3:23 am

Anyone know where's a good source for Beatlegs?

glass_onion · Post by **glass_onion** » Wed May 03, 2006 2:39 pm

hey edgar,

just wondering if you got my e mail?

cheers

bee_atles · Post by **bee_atles** » Wed May 03, 2006 3:06 pm

Hmm well Don I'm new to Bootlegs but here's a couple sites I found. I'm sure there's more.

This site is for trading and has alot of info on Beatlegs.
http://www.bootlegzone.com/index.php?section=1&pub=&sort=1

You can downlaod various Bealtegs here for a small fee. The quality on them varies though. And it's not as cool as having the actually bootlegs. Worth a look though.
http://www.withthebeatlegs.com/anteriores_beat_eng.html