Some of these guys are mad!

[tennis_nick]

I think the beef people are having is the fact that bridges are not aligned with the neck, just the notches. Usually not a big deal, but some of them are (IMO) fairly terrible...
I'll find a pic later to show just how bad it can be. String notches in the bridge barely a millimeter away from the edge of the saddle. Seems pretty lazy to me.

Damon specifically mentioned the tailpiece. See page 4.

ah right. i don't see it

[jingle_jangle]

Looks ok to me, but I may be biased.

Having said that, I think "one offs" are going on hiatus for a while.

I sincerely hope that this is not because of one dubious character with a somewhat nebulous axe to grind (and who failed at it).

[donnellbw]

Just caught up with this thread.

In the spirit of Pauls's comments I think that we are are witnessing a phenomenal sociopathic mindset of "entitlement" among certain folks: "I 'deserve' the best job, the best car, the best guitar". And its up to you (the supplier) to make me what I already know I need, and to be ready to hear my fury when it isn't "just right' (like.....Goldilocks?). Yes, it took me awhile to get to know my 94" Ric MG 360 12; the old: OK you're a RIC, so DO IT for me!

I didn't know that I needed a tube amp to bring it out, or that the 12k (vintage "wrong') toasters gave me the best of both jangle and drive worlds, or that this beautiful guitar could actually make me play and sound better.

I learned from you folks how to make this ric MY ric and not just A ric. My early buyer's regrets were overcome once I simply began to develop a relationship with it, rather than expecting an instant "honeymoon". Yes, there is a certain "espirit de corp" among owners, but I don't let that dictate my enjoyment of this beautifully made world class instrument.

I think we are experiencing a social phenomena of "instant gratification" from a new market. I read recently where even corporate businesses are hiring psychological consultants to help managers "tone down" their attitude to be more "sensitive" to this age group, human resources fearing loosing good hires by "scaring" them off. Look at the mess many public high schools are in because situational common sense discipline is now considered "abuse".

I hope that the musician Divas who honestly believe their own version of the universe grow to tolerate and appreciate, if they are really honest about loving music, the diverse tools and solutions available to making it. Hateful judgements only betray personal insecurities that existed long before the opinions got expressed.

[eric_b]

I sincerely hope that this is not because of one dubious character with a somewhat nebulous axe to grind (and who failed at it).

Absolutely not..

[jd_hoover]

I might be the new guy here but I'll put in my two cents: I hate fakes of any kind - they inevitably diminish the value of the real thing. I didn't buy my guitar as an investment but I'd hate to see a slew of fakes hit the streets and have to watch my guitar's market value surely plummet.
Good on JH, great guitars, great value, american jobs.
What planet are those guys from?

[admin]

Welcome to the RickResource Forum, John.

[rickenmetal]

there was obviously some useless **** flung around on that thread, but:

1. Why would it be illegal to make a copy for your own use?
2. From what I understand, if I buy a real Rickenbacker, say with a broken neck, and put, say a no-name aftermarket strat neck on it, I do not put any nameplate, but I am doing something illegal. If so, that would essentially mean I never really owned what I have legally bought. (or is it illegal only if I do put a neckplate?)

please correct me if I am wrong.

[jingle_jangle]

It's not illegal to make a copy for your own use, provided you never intend to profit from its creation.

Here's where it gets sticky--all kinds of extenuating and odd circumstances can conspire to put such an instrument into the hands of the public, perhaps in a knowing way, or in a completely innocent one: a person gets in a financial bind and his guitar or bass goes up for sale or barter.

Or the person who built the copy passes on. His heirs or executor puts everything up for sale to the public in whatever fashion. The copy could easily be represented as a Rickenbacker, or even as a "one-off" (since nobody's seen any others quite like it, warts and all...), and could bring a high price if it ever sells, because these instances are both the kind that will get the seller a letter from RICs lawyers threatening swift action.

These types of uncomfortable circumstances are just a couple of examples. In the case of Rickenbacker's reputation and ownership of the trademarks, it's usually wiser to err on the side of conservatism, although there are always those folks who push things and decide that they are going to take the chance, thereby clouding the waters. Is every Rick counterfeit a competent instrument, as well-built and playable as an original?

Absolutely not; in fact, very, very few are. Why let folks mess with your rep and make a buck doing it? No reason, hence RIC's unbending opposition to counterfeits, fakes, copies, etc...

[kennyhowes]

C = quality ? did you see the tailpiece on the recent one off ric-outlet C Series 12 string sold on eBay ? That was a optical illusion ? the guitar was tilted ?

I still want to know what's wrong with this tailpiece.

[Scastles]

I can't tell if it's an optical illusion or odd angle shot, but it makes the string alignment from the bridge to the tailpiece look off kilter.

[Wurlitzer]

C = quality ? did you see the tailpiece on the recent one off ric-outlet C Series 12 string sold on eBay ? That was a optical illusion ? the guitar was tilted ?

I still want to know what's wrong with this tailpiece.

it's misaligned

that would drive me crazy

and don't say I am already crazy....

[kennyhowes]

C = quality ? did you see the tailpiece on the recent one off ric-outlet C Series 12 string sold on eBay ? That was a optical illusion ? the guitar was tilted ?

I still want to know what's wrong with this tailpiece.

it's misaligned

that would drive me crazy

and don't say I am already crazy....

Hey, you said it, not me.

I didn't notice it being misaligned the two weeks it sat next to my desk and I played it.

Can Craig Witty verify this?

[wittyair]

I sold it!!
Just kidding.......it's right here.
Ya know, someone mentioned the tailpiece alignment to me before but I thought that it must be just an optical thing,
that Rickenbacker would never allow an instrument to be shipped that wasn't up to snuff. I didn't pay any attention to
it until now.....the guitar is a dream....it looks great and plays great! Well, I just measured it and the tailpiece is a bit skewed
to the right......it doesn't affect the operation of the guitar but it is a bit off center. I went through all my Rics and found
that to be a common occurrence. This one is off by a bit more than the rest. It sure doesn't bother me, though. To me
it shows that all these guitars are made by actual humans.

But dont put the one-offs on hiatus!!!! Where will I get my guitars??????

[Wurlitzer]

it's a beautiful guitar but how did that get past QC with the tailpiece like that ? I am sorry to say this but for that kind of money it would not be acceptable to me.
that would throw my noodle off kilter and life would not be zen.

cheers

[Wurlitzer]

I didn't notice it being misaligned the two weeks it sat next to my desk and I played it.

if I opened the case and saw that I would have a heart attack....

I could not be one with the universe either

so close to nirvana too...having a solid color and all