RRF Coming under fire

[weemac]

what's new? - I got an HB1 from a forumite and put it in my 4001 (neck pick-up) - sounds pretty cool! but that's another thread...

They work well in the 4001 don't they..... (particually when tapped) But that's another thread!

Eden.

[simer4001]

Hey guys & gals.

What's new?

I have the flu. The past couple of days I've been laying on the couch watching The Beatles Anthology.

[winston]

Get well soon Brian.

[simer4001]

Thanks Brian. I hope to be up and about tomorrow.

[tennis_nick]

Nick I'd be interested in hearing your opinion of the humbuckers on that 5120. Do you have a FT, HT, or DeArmond-equipped Hollowbody in your arsenal to do a comparo?

I don't own any others, but I've played so many of them, I can give a fair idea of them.

If you're thinking Dynasonics, move on, they aren't close at all, they aren't supposed to be really. If you want this body style with Dearmond style Dynasonics, look for a 5129.

Comparing to stock filertrons in a 6122, they are a bit bassier sounding, they don't seem to have that indefinable quality of a cranked Filtertron, though I may just not have had it enough to find that sound/feel. I think some TVJones would be a definite improvement, but I like the stock ones anyhow. They're more like low output humbucker, which is what I'm used too.

Compared to the humbuckers in my SG, I find the Gretsch ones can be brighter, without being harsh, don't "honk" when playing clean (the bad kind of midrange honk) but are definitely lower output, much hard to overdrive even a small 15W tube amp.

But I like em!

[jingle_jangle]

Nick I'd be interested in hearing your opinion of the humbuckers on that 5120. Do you have a FT, HT, or DeArmond-equipped Hollowbody in your arsenal to do a comparo?

I don't own any others, but I've played so many of them, I can give a fair idea of them.

If you're thinking Dynasonics, move on, they aren't close at all, they aren't supposed to be really. If you want this body style with Dearmond style Dynasonics, look for a 5129.

Comparing to stock filertrons in a 6122, they are a bit bassier sounding, they don't seem to have that indefinable quality of a cranked Filtertron, though I may just not have had it enough to find that sound/feel. I think some TVJones would be a definite improvement, but I like the stock ones anyhow. They're more like low output humbucker, which is what I'm used too.

Compared to the humbuckers in my SG, I find the Gretsch ones can be brighter, without being harsh, don't "honk" when playing clean (the bad kind of midrange honk) but are definitely lower output, much hard to overdrive even a small 15W tube amp.

But I like em!

Yeah, Dynas...

I'm in agreement with you re: tone and output. I had one of the 51XX series...it was my first hollowbody Gretsch, back in 2004. A 5125, and very sweet it was. Had the Dyna 2000s and very sweet single-coils they were, with that Gretsch sound that you call "indefinable", but I call "juicy"--a mellowness of the upper-mid with a bit of forward projection.

A number of my Gretsch solidbodies (Pro Jets) were fitted with these, and I have put FTs into them. Aitch's deVille also had them; I replaced them with a Plus HT and a Supertron, both handwound by TVJones.

Seem to be just right for your needs, though. Congrats on a gorgeous geetar!

[tennis_nick]

Yeah, Dynas...

I'm in agreement with you re: tone and output. I had one of the 51XX series...it was my first hollowbody Gretsch, back in 2004. A 5125, and very sweet it was. Had the Dyna 2000s and very sweet single-coils they were, with that Gretsch sound that you call "indefinable", but I call "juicy"--a mellowness of the upper-mid with a bit of forward projection.

A number of my Gretsch solidbodies (Pro Jets) were fitted with these, and I have put FTs into them. Aitch's deVille also had them; I replaced them with a Plus HT and a Supertron, both handwound by TVJones.

Seem to be just right for your needs, though. Congrats on a gorgeous geetar!

It's a fun guitar! really hard to put down! I spoke with a friend of mine who is probably the most highly regarded soundmen in his area and he said "$400, $4000... I've never mixed a band that had a Gretsch that sounded bad in a mix.

[jaymi]

Wow ! it seems i wasnt seeing things after all .Ive made a mistake by logging on this site. Thanks but no thanks . its not worth it to hang around here . I think your logic and sense of reality is really the subjective thing here . Thanks for letting me on Peter But i think my trial subscription is over and i dont want to renew . please cancel my membership .

WOW!!!! How many people have done this recently? I am getting concerned about seeing this (again)....Elnjaybass and thinneckrick were on here not long ago and they're gone.....what's going on?!?!?!?

It seems that rickenfenderampeg left because he was upset that everyone didn't agree with him. I remember that lnj was upset because everyone was trying to "keep up" (his words) with his posts, and then took exception to some of his opinions. I don't remember what happened to thinneck. I saw this as the "if you can't play by my rules I'm going to take my ball and go home" syndrome.

The truth is, anyone who can't deal with others posting a different opinion shouldn't be involved in an opinion based forum in the first place.

I highlighted this comment to remind us that THIS is an opinion based forum and if people are leaving(based on the above info)it appears that their opinions don't weight as heavily as some others. I think this is a fascinating statement because even on this forum, it is contradictory....

[winston]

Jaymi,

I would postulate that we would be happy to hear your tactful and dilpomatic solution to whatever it is you see as a burning problem or issue with this forum.

Perhaps for clarity sake define the issue(s) first and then the solution(s) that you propose. I would suggest that you send Peter and I a PM, particularly if you would prefer your thoughts be held in confidence.

[jaymi]

Jaymi,

I would postulate that we would be happy to hear your tactful and dilpomatic solution to whatever it is you see as a burning problem or issue with this forum.

Perhaps for clarity sake define the issue(s) first and then the solution(s) that you propose. I would suggest that you send Peter and I a PM, particularly if you would prefer your thoughts be held in confidence.

Brian,

In thinking through your response above, I don't really think that it would be necessary to provide my thoughts in confidence. I believe I can establish my concerns where they are read by all. I don't really see a "burning problem" as you suggested above. What I do see does strike a chord of concern and I have PM'd Peter previously when things started to happen with thinneckrick. I have never been one to sugarcoat my thoughts/opinions and can share them easily and mostly in a non-confrontational way. I can spell them out here, or PM Peter and he can give you the insights that I shared with him previously and then we can discuss.

[winston]

Whatever is your preference Jaymi, I am here to help and will always to try to assist all comers in a fair and objective manner.

[admin]

We are always interested in comments that will make the RickResource Forum more user friendly for those who post here.

In making our comments, however, it is important to consider the impact of our statements on others. A take it or leave it approach will offend, sooner or later.

With regard to those who may be waiting to have a registration approved, there are a couple of points that should be made. I will offer them by way of example here. If I have been suspended from this forum as Peter McCormack, would it make sense that I would then be granted admission as Meter PcCormack a few moments later? If I register as SluggerRoid under the name of Barry Bonds, is this a legitimate registration? What about real names such as Donald Duck or Peter McCormack. What about usernames that are offensive with admin as the real name? If I register as ThreadBuster1, ThreadBuster2, and ThreadBuster3 with the real names of Johnny Smith, Smitty John, Jitty Sohn is this a legitimate registration?

It is easy to talk nonsense and to deliberately offend when you are posting under a name that is not your own. Genuineness begins with being able to use you real name. If people are complaining elsewhere about not being registered, would it not make sense to contact the admin here if their intentions were honourable?

I want the best for all who register here. It starts, however, with personal responsibility and genuineness. Once we have these in place, the rest comes naturally.

[1965]

It is easy to talk nonsense and to deliberately offend when you are posting under a name that is not your own. Genuineness begins with being able to use you real name. If people are complaining elsewhere about not being registered, would it not make sense to contact the admin here if their intentions were honourable?

I agree with you on all points, but I think it's too bad that this forum can be viewed by anyone on the internet. Personally, I'd rather it be closed. I don't mind registering with my real name, but being able to find me on RRF on page 5 of a Google search for "Wes Mitchell" is a bit unsettling.

[admin]

Wes: The idea that anyone should be able to read information on this forum has been around since its early days. This is in the spirit of sharing and trust.

You do, nonetheless, raise a most interesting point about a members only forum.

[jingle_jangle]

You would get no resistance from me if this forum went "members only"...