What's the difference between old en new 4005's?

berth · Post by **berth** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:27 pm

I know the older ones have toasters and full width inlay. Are there any other difference's? How do they compare in sound ?

sloop_john_b · Post by **sloop_john_b** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:34 pm

The necks did get bigger on 70's versions, but not by much.

Jeff Scott and I did a side-to-side A/B test at MARF 2007 - my '74 WB (w/ higains) vs. his '67 WB (w/ toasters). Both had Chromes. IMO, the tone of both instruments was extremely similar, with the '74 being louder.

I would not hesitate to go after a 70's one, unless you're a stickler for ridiculously slim necks, in which case you should wait for a 60's version.

sloop_john_b · Post by **sloop_john_b** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:35 pm

I'll also add that I currently have a '66 WB, and I prefer the tone of my old '74.

jps · Post by **jps** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:41 pm

The headstock shape did the standard change from '60s voluptuous to modern squat, no walnut wings, but narrow shedua strip added to neck in place of wider walnut strip. Loss of plexi finger rest on newer ones.

I don't remember the tonal differences so go by John's assessment; he is younger and still has plenty of unfilled brain cells to store more data with.

paologregorio · Post by **paologregorio** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:22 pm

I know alot of my fellow forumites go ga ga over walnut wings, but am I the only one sees them and is instantly reminded of one of these?

kennyhowes · Post by **kennyhowes** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:24 pm

sloop_john_b wrote:I would not hesitate to go after a 70's one, unless you're a stickler for ridiculously slim necks, in which case you should wait for a 60's version.

Seems like there's a lot more '60s ones out there than '70s, just from off-the-top-of-my-head statistics.

sloop_john_b · Post by **sloop_john_b** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:33 pm

kennyhowes wrote: Seems like there's a lot more '60s ones out there than '70s, just from off-the-top-of-my-head statistics.

That's for sure, and the register confirms it: from '65 to '69, there are 44; from '70-'84, there are just 13.

berth · Post by **berth** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:28 am

sloop_john_b wrote: I would not hesitate to go after a 70's one.

I just paid for an 80's one a couple of days ago.....

rickaddict · Post by **rickaddict** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:14 am

jps wrote:The headstock shape did the standard change from '60s voluptuous to modern squat...

I like both. But I didn't like bulbous!

rickaddict · Post by **rickaddict** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:15 am

berth wrote:&#!@. I just paid for an 80's one a couple of days ago.....

Congrats, Bert!

jps · Post by **jps** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:57 pm

Um.....pics!

sloop_john_b · Post by **sloop_john_b** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:51 pm

berth wrote:
sloop_john_b wrote: I would not hesitate to go after a 70's one.
I just paid for an 80's one a couple of days ago.....

Even better - more rare!

Pics please!!!

berth · Post by **berth** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:57 pm

jps wrote:Um.....pics!

sloop_john_b wrote: Even better - more rare!
Pics please!!!

Not Yet. The bass has not even shipped yet....

berth · Post by **berth** » Fri May 08, 2009 5:42 pm

sloop_john_b wrote:Pics please!!!

More and better pics at the site of the previous owner

kennyhowes · Post by **kennyhowes** » Fri May 08, 2009 5:57 pm

Wow, walnut!!! Nice arm mark too.

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