what do you think about 4654 project?
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- coolhandjjl
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Re: what do you think about 4654 project?
How much mass would that body have? Anything less than the current 4xxx solid bodies could adversely affect tonal quality in the deep tones.
'09 4003 | '93 4003s
John Luke aka Coolhand
John Luke aka Coolhand
Re: what do you think about 4654 project?
A Höfner Beatle or Club bass has much less mass and they both have plenty of bottom end.
Re: what do you think about 4654 project?
Nothing beats a Gibson Thunderbird in this categorybassduke49 wrote:That looks great, but almost assuredly a neck diver.
Also, when I'm playing, I tend to use both hands, so it isn't usually a problem.
Can we stop talking about this bass now, because I want one, and RIC aren't making them.
Dammit.
Re: what do you think about 4654 project?
Check this out. Saw it in the Bass Player new gear section
http://www.waterstoneguitars.com/press.shtml
http://www.waterstoneguitars.com/press.shtml
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No!!!
This is a badBadBAD copy of "my idea"!¡!
I will never buy this kind of ****.
My Basses' Name:
4001White 1981-11-W.
4003Jetglo 1992-04-Mr.B.B.
4001Mapleglo 1974-06-Tre
4004Walnut 1994-09 CI-Giusy
4004Mapleglo 2003-05 CII (Fretless 4-2-5)-Amo
4004Jetglo 1994-12 Laredo-Ruso
4003Mapleglo 1988-08 LK-Lemmy
2030MidnightBlue 1992-08-Nino
4001White 1981-11-W.
4003Jetglo 1992-04-Mr.B.B.
4001Mapleglo 1974-06-Tre
4004Walnut 1994-09 CI-Giusy
4004Mapleglo 2003-05 CII (Fretless 4-2-5)-Amo
4004Jetglo 1994-12 Laredo-Ruso
4003Mapleglo 1988-08 LK-Lemmy
2030MidnightBlue 1992-08-Nino
Re: what do you think about 4654 project?
This idea looks amazing, I really like the 4003 style headstock with the 650 pickguard.
I agree a good idea would be for it to be a completely different thing to the 4003's configuration. Definitely hi-gains but maybe at a different position? Maybe a 32 scale with 24 frets so that it's not a 30 but you also don't have to extend the body shape.
Anyways, going to the neck-dive issue, it can be improved a lot by changing the strap button to were Flying V's have it, were the neck and body meet, obviously on the body side. This way you don't have to worry that much about the horn being short. There are many basses around that don't have standard horns and balance ok.
Nice idea!!
I agree a good idea would be for it to be a completely different thing to the 4003's configuration. Definitely hi-gains but maybe at a different position? Maybe a 32 scale with 24 frets so that it's not a 30 but you also don't have to extend the body shape.
Anyways, going to the neck-dive issue, it can be improved a lot by changing the strap button to were Flying V's have it, were the neck and body meet, obviously on the body side. This way you don't have to worry that much about the horn being short. There are many basses around that don't have standard horns and balance ok.
Nice idea!!
'03 4003 FG VP
- paologregorio
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Re: what do you think about 4654 project?
I've never been a fan of the cresting wave top horn on the 600 series models, but it goes well with the 400X headstock. It's a cool project.
I have to compliment you on your creative fusion of elements of two different Ricks that fit nicely together visually!
If I had a 600 series guitar, the temptation to get out a saw and sander, and trim the top horn to resemble a 325 or 350 would overwhelm me. . .

I have to compliment you on your creative fusion of elements of two different Ricks that fit nicely together visually!
If I had a 600 series guitar, the temptation to get out a saw and sander, and trim the top horn to resemble a 325 or 350 would overwhelm me. . .
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I would have the same temptation. Mark
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Moving the strap button closer to the center of gravity does NOT help with balance. Ever played a Gibson Thunderbird? The further away from the center of gravity you move the neck side strap button, the better a bass will balance.jc-sz wrote:Anyways, going to the neck-dive issue, it can be improved a lot by changing the strap button to were Flying V's have it, were the neck and body meet, obviously on the body side. This way you don't have to worry that much about the horn being short.
- watton_earth
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Re: what do you think about 4654 project?
I realise this is an old post but..... dam! I love this idea! has anyone actually attempted this project?
I want to be a door too...
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My Basses' Name:
4001White 1981-11-W.
4003Jetglo 1992-04-Mr.B.B.
4001Mapleglo 1974-06-Tre
4004Walnut 1994-09 CI-Giusy
4004Mapleglo 2003-05 CII (Fretless 4-2-5)-Amo
4004Jetglo 1994-12 Laredo-Ruso
4003Mapleglo 1988-08 LK-Lemmy
2030MidnightBlue 1992-08-Nino
4001White 1981-11-W.
4003Jetglo 1992-04-Mr.B.B.
4001Mapleglo 1974-06-Tre
4004Walnut 1994-09 CI-Giusy
4004Mapleglo 2003-05 CII (Fretless 4-2-5)-Amo
4004Jetglo 1994-12 Laredo-Ruso
4003Mapleglo 1988-08 LK-Lemmy
2030MidnightBlue 1992-08-Nino
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I did this using my MID 2030 as base.
My Basses' Name:
4001White 1981-11-W.
4003Jetglo 1992-04-Mr.B.B.
4001Mapleglo 1974-06-Tre
4004Walnut 1994-09 CI-Giusy
4004Mapleglo 2003-05 CII (Fretless 4-2-5)-Amo
4004Jetglo 1994-12 Laredo-Ruso
4003Mapleglo 1988-08 LK-Lemmy
2030MidnightBlue 1992-08-Nino
4001White 1981-11-W.
4003Jetglo 1992-04-Mr.B.B.
4001Mapleglo 1974-06-Tre
4004Walnut 1994-09 CI-Giusy
4004Mapleglo 2003-05 CII (Fretless 4-2-5)-Amo
4004Jetglo 1994-12 Laredo-Ruso
4003Mapleglo 1988-08 LK-Lemmy
2030MidnightBlue 1992-08-Nino
Re: what do you think about 4654 project?
I may have commented before, but I'll repeat anyway: great looking project. The only concern I have is whether the upper horn and/or the weight of the tuners would cause the project to neck dive? I can see it for a 30-inch scale very well, indeed.
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You can tell by 12th fret position that the scale has been changed for this pic. This is definitely the most "production" looking version of this idea though. I'm certain neck dive would be an issue, but unlike my Gibson Blackbird, there is no place to rest your forearm to counteract that. Never the less, I think it'd be a great idea for a short scale bass. I also think it should have a cresting wave headstock.
- BAD RONBO, KiLLeR DWaRfS
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dane wrote...I also think it should have a cresting wave headstock...
great minds think alike, dane !!!
great minds think alike, dane !!!
