So now again

heinpete · Post by **heinpete** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:58 pm

Mr. Hall, sorry, but that was not the reply I was looking for. Can you kindly confirm or comment on our observations? Your knowledge would be of great help. Thanks in advance.

heinpete · Post by **heinpete** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:59 pm

Mr. Hall, sorry, but that was not the reply I was looking for. Can you kindly confirm or comment on our observations? Your knowledge would be of great help for all forumites. Thanks in advance.

gothbin · Post by **gothbin** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:24 am

I wasn't joking, and it still doesn't solve the mystery. I too wan't to know what is going on in the circuit of Ricks. So please Mr. Hall tell us the secret of the circuit!

keb · Post by **keb** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:26 pm

I never thought this was a "problem," but just the way the circuit is designed.

When the pickup selector is in the middle position, both tone controls are in the common path taken by both pickups, and therefore either tone control will bleed off highs from the output.

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:39 pm

That is normal Peter unless one pickup is set much louder than the other. If one pickup predominates in the overall mix from your bass that pickup's tone control will also predominate. I always turn both controls the same amount.

rickfan60 · Post by **rickfan60** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:27 pm

It is normal for a 4001/3 to behave that way. The tone of the dominant pickup will rule. The pickups of a 4002 are independent. If you crank up the tone on the neck pickup all the way but back the volume down to any level below the volume of the treble pickup you can still hear the tone of the neck pickup. It is not lost as it would be on the 4001/3 with the same settings. Not that there is anything wrong with the way the 4001/3 works. It is just different from the 4002.

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:39 pm

I would have liked them to be independent to tell you the truth although that aspect is one of the things which makes them unique. On the one with my cap control I have it wired so one tone controls both pickups, it's actually kind of nice like that.

johnallg · Post by **johnallg** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:49 pm

Using Ric-O-Sound solves this "problem".

heinpete · Post by **heinpete** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:37 pm

The grounding actually IS separated by the additional 0.0047 cap in the 4001 and ONLY THEN the tone pots work totally independent!!! Maybe this is more of the real reason behind that "bass sucker" than mimicking the double bass sound, what it never really did? However the 4001/4003 electronics ARE "weird wired". The circuit of the Gibson SG guitar and EB3 bass (two PU version) give an independent tone of each PU, but I wonder if this can be achieved with the stereo wiring of the Ricks?

johnallg · Post by **johnallg** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:04 am

Tip and ring on the connector for ROS gives each pickup and it's tone and volume pot seperately.